What Islamic Ummah?

[Mystique]

Re: What Islamic Ummah?

Dear, people will take it personally when you attack them personally. You quote my post and announce that that madrassah mindset (no matter what words you used for it) is the root cause of all problems & point to my ‘authoritative tone’ & what not & falsly accuse me of ‘enforcing’ Islam on you and others when I never do that in real life or anywhere else & you expect not to take it personally?

Call others arrogant out of your ignorance & expect people not to take it personally? Expose your m/cre intelligence & expect people to be impressed by it?

I did not study in local schools and madrassahs. I came to live in Pakistan after completing my studies overaeas, did not grow up in Pakistan either so your latest assumption about me that my mindset is influenced by the local political trends inside the country is also baseless. Then comparing my beliefs with fascist Islamic ideas is also another stupid act coming from you.

And no I am not a secularist so duh, that is also another silly assertion you made. I take my knowledge from a long research of Islam and a bit of other religions and I call myself an Islamic follower, not a secularist. So if you find my views to be secular rhen be sure that what you actually want to see implemented in Pakistan is ISLAM, not secularism. Dont mix up political fascist imposter Islam with normal Islam. Being a normal person, I follow normal Islam. So if my views have impressed you then what you really need is a few more shots of normal Islam & that is also what Pakistan needs, not secularism.

@phoenixdesi

dear, the discussion is not about you and me. sometimes in a discussion, people take it personally. I am talking about the fact that Pakistan calls itself Islamic Republic of Pakistan instead of democratic republic of Pakistan, that Pakistan constitution is religionized, that we have sharia courts, that we have a sharia panel board whose only job is to ensure that every law in Pakistan should be by Islamic laws, that we don’t let non-Muslims to be PM/President of Pakistan, that we protect minorities based on what Islam has told us instead of treating them 200% as Pakistani citizens, that we have a syllabus from early classes which promote Islamic moral and social superiority instead of religious harmony and the list goes on and on.

so, I was not specifically addressing you but thx for clarification. what your post means you are indeed a true secularist, who firmly believes in his/her religious beliefs but don’t enforce it on others and I am sure you also want our gov’t and state to be the same way… totally secular. that is all

last but not least, you are regularly calling me a person of low IQ, stupid and ignorant. so when the discussion reaches to that level, no point of carrying it forward. in any case, we have made our points several times and now we are going in circles. let guppies decide. thx for some good discussion.