What is the punishment for sodomy?

Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with Muslim values, do they suffer from mental imbalances or are muslims (of today) in general just plain barbaric. Mukhtaran Mai’s brother was also raped but failed to make the headlines or get any justice, now read the story given below and judge for yourself.

This is not just a case of rape or sodomy, the poor girl in question was 12years old when she was married to a 62year old who had previously wed five times. At the tender age of 15 she has two children, for Godsake, this bast@ard did’nt even wait for her to reach a certain age. Then to top it all off, he rapes the younger brother. When she was married the “younger” brother was sent along to give her company, so he must have been not more than eleven?

Punishment of 3years imprisonment and 2,000 lashes? WTF is that? He should be hanged from his kahoonas in public…just like the way they treat poor Pakis/Afghans caught smuggling drugs.

To make life easier for the poor girl and her family, she was asked to return her dowry (SR10,000)…does any of this make sense…I feel sick…

http://khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2005/December/middleeast_December166.xml&section=middleeast&col=Saudi man sentenced to prison term, lashes for raping his wife’s brother

From our correspondent

7 December 2005

JEDDAH — A man has been sentenced to three years in prison and 2,000 lashes for raping his wife’s brother, according to a report in the Arabic daily Okaz.

**The daily reported recently that the woman filed a case against her husband seeking separation. The court agreed, asking her to return the SR10,000 dowry money. **The woman was received by the first-ever social protection home in south Jeddah with her two children. Her situation was the first case of family violence to be monitored by the National Human Rights Commission, in coordination with the Social Affairs authorities.

Fifteen-year-old Munirah (a pseudonym), a Saudi national, was forced to marry him when she was only 12 years old because of difficult family circumstances. After her father’s death, a distant relation to her late father asked for Munirah’s hand in marriage. The family accepted on the condition that Munirah’s younger brother accompany the couple. The man, who was 50 years older than his bride, initially seemed eager to help Munirah’s family out of a difficult situation, but on her wedding night she was shocked to discover that she was his sixth wife.

Over time, Munirah’s younger brother seemed to be experiencing difficulties also. He would leave the house as often as possible, only to return to weep in his sister’s arms. At first Munirah thought he was crying over her situation, but she later discovered the truth. Her husband had been raping her younger brother. A medical check-up proved the boy’s accusations were true. By that time, Munirah had delivered her second child and pressed charges against her husband.

Munirah’s mother has joined her daughter in a charitable shelter where Munirah is taking night classes and working at a beauty parlour on a salary of SR400 per month. Soon Munirah’s mother will leave the country and Munirah will be in charge of her small family. Munirah will be moving to a social protection home that is closer to her school. Not much help has been given to her brother, who is in desperate need of psychological support.

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Some would say that death is the clear punishment for sodomy. In fact, I believe hadiths (don't know if they were authentic or fake) have been posted here in the past stating that anybody who engages in any form of homosexuality should be killed/thrown off of a cliff. This is a clear case of rape/child abuse ... I'm quite disgusted at the double standards and the fact that she was told to return the money. I hope this boy gets the help he needs. :(

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An obvious point..2,000 lashes is effectively a death sentence..and a very slow one at that..

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i am tempted to say "hang him by the bal*ls" but killing has never decreased/deterred the crime itself. i think a life-sentence and some sort of physical punishment is necessary but the criminal himself should be studied by some psychologists or whatever so that they can determine what causes such behavior. it is society collectively that makes these people think they can get away with acts such as this.

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He was on wife #6 ... are all his wives alive? I'm surprised he got away with that ... clear abuse of the law from the get go.

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If only Umar R.A. was Alive...if only...

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Dwelling in the past doesn’t help us in matters today… :rolleyes: :stuck_out_tongue:

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Zakk Bhai, Two Things,

1st - if rape can be proved or not, my bet 9/10 the verdict will be reversed for lack of evidence, in an appeal.

2nd - even if convicted, have you heard of the concept of Blood Money?? if not I suggest you do some research. Specially in this case where the Girl is financially stranded and also has to return her Mehar!!!

You will comprehensively find Saudi (MEN) will get away with almost anything not because they have the money, but because even the law is on their side, its a pretty sick situation!!!

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it does. People just tend to deviate, and pay no attention to it..

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2,000 lashes with 3 years imprisonment implies a very tame version of stripes, according to hadeeth literature and Muslim traditions, lashes should be given as if though the person was holding the Quran under his armpit. Thus, limiting pain to the guilty yet handing out punishment.

Point to note here is that adultery with women is punishable by death, then why the double standards here?

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The Taliban used to take those convicted of sodomy to a cliff...and threw them off of it....dunno why, but that's what they did.

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This is a disgusting act, I agree. Stoning to death was carried out for zaani (adulterers), in this case this budha is a zaani and he should be stoned to death, I don't know the exact sentence specified in Shariah at the moment.

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You don’t know about Arabs..

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the punishment is death by jo jo

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may be I don’t know, but atleast read the article, it tells you that she was the sixth wife.

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you mean goga till death, right?

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this is just crazy ..

those 2000 lashes..

will they be administered all at once? or over the period of the punishment?

if they're all at once, then, it is a death sentence, and a good one at that.

if they're spread out, then this is not right. This guy needs to die, and be made an example of.

public flogging/hanging/stonning .. whatever

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^ my understanding of lashes is that he is supposed to have all 2000 lashes one time, but if his condition worsens to point of death or similar then he is given a break to recover then lashed again till 2000 are done, correct me if I'm wrong.

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What a freak.

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Wicked! An appropriate punishment, unlike the UK where so many evil crooks get off with a ‘suspended sentence’.