Railway, PIA, Pakistan Steel mill, Pepco, PSO and other major Institutions having completely or partiality bankrupt. who is responsible? Democracy
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PIA , Railway ,PSM ,Pepco (Wapda), PSO all are running in loss since decades. Responsibility goes to all the governments since 80s.
Whom you will like to hang for this.
Jis kay galay main phandah fit ho jaiay.
Sure that can be a bloody civilian .
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Railway, PIA, Pakistan Steel mill, Pepco, PSO and other major Institutions having completely or partiality bankrupt. who is responsible? Democracy
well hang someone or not..but at least as this govt says..its the best revenge :)
still wondering revenge from whom?...
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In Pakistan like most countries even the USA and Britian... democracy is not complete.
True Democracy is almost unheard of today... only when there are major refferendums or general elections and even these can be rigged... not just in third world countries either. America had its major debacle with the Bush/Al Gore Florida fight.
That aside in modern times its ussually democracy by representation. People chose thier representatives but the ones they chose are not always honest or steadfast people... often politicians can be real snakes and will go with the flow or use underhand backroom diplomacy to get thier way.
Honestly its a wonder that in these times when technology is so advanced the world has yet to see a true Democracy where every man really does get his say and a fair share of the outcome.
If your still struggling to comprehend me consider the events of the Iraq War, majority of the world opposed it but the "Choudharies and thier chamchays" still got thier way.
Also the rich really do have the power to distribute wealth more evenly and the world really can come together on this and many other core issues to humanity... but conspiracy theories aside here its as if people really dont give a damn anymore and that is the worst bit about it.
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If not democracy than what?
democracy is not a magic potion, it doesnt give immediate results in every field. it takes time and believe it or not pakistan is heading in the right direction. things will get worse before they get better but it is a phase Pakistan has to go through. you cannot cut it short by military intervention.
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If not democracy than what?
democracy is not a magic potion, it doesnt give immediate results in every field. it takes time and believe it or not pakistan is heading in the right direction. things will get worse before they get better but it is a phase Pakistan has to go through. you cannot cut it short by military intervention.
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You completely missed the point.
I did not say democracy does not work.
I said democracy by representation is not working. True democracy would work if you gave it a chance... but it requires people to be stable... for true democracy there must be great sacrifice.
To be honest the way I see it is that any system is perfectly valid so long as the average mans life is good.
If a dictatorship can promise people will live long and happy lives, and believe it or not one or two dictatorships are actually very succesful, then fair play.
Likewise military rule or anything else is fine so long as the people are living well.
Democracy is great too so long as people are not suffereing... but many so called democracies are worse than some dictatorships and vice versa.
For me it does not matter who rules so long as it is for the best of the people and the majority of people are happy.
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^^ oops... my bad. actually i was replying to the opening post. didnt even read your post earlier. agree with most of what you said.
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No worries this has actually got me thinking about something bigger so thankyou for your contribution anyway.
A lot of people who go round beating the drums for democracy dont really know its true meaning anyway.
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Democracy is a drama in common world where few top leaders
Play their roles according to script and in Pakistan it's Play without any script.
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Railway, PIA, Pakistan Steel mill, Pepco, PSO and other major Institutions having completely or partiality bankrupt. who is responsible? Democracy
Well If Pakistan stops exporting terror and terrorist to other countries and focuses instead in things which are far more important for its people and economy then things will be better. The problem is not democracy. The peoblem of pakistan is so called idiot patriotc jerks who are in charge of ISI and army.
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Well If Pakistan stops exporting terror and terrorist to other countries and focuses instead in things which are far more important for its people and economy then things will be better. The problem is not democracy. The peoblem of pakistan is so called idiot patriotc jerks who are in charge of ISI and army.
keep your low mentality advices for yourself where ever your living, What we have we know better and we badly NEED stop foreign hands involving in pakistan unrest from long time. the JERKS sitting out never want a happy and stable Pakistan.
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keep your low mentality advices for yourself where ever your living, What we have we know better and we badly NEED stop foreign hands involving in pakistan unrest from long time. the JERKS sitting out never want a happy and stable Pakistan.
So you are for exporting terror?
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It is at times like this when we need to remind ourselves that the growing instability is largely due to the terrorism inside Pakistan. Our failure to acknowledge the truth could only result in further destruction. We are only digging a bigger hole and sinking deeper by providing leeway to terrorists responsible for disrupting the nation’s growth. The fact is that terrorism has taken its toll on the nation, and if the evidence continues to point the finger in one direction, then we must act responsibly, acknowledge the obvious and, at the very least, avoid indulging in conspiracy theories. The seriousness of the situation could be judged simply by looking at events from the last couple of days. There was a suicide blast yesterday in Karachi, one near Peshawar and another one today in the area of Shabqadar, near the Mohmand Tribal belt. We don’t have to look far to determine that the country at the moment is plagued with the wrath of terrorism. How can we expect democracy to succeed, when these terrorists are on a mission to destroy Pakistan? Their aim to destabilize the nation has become clearer and clearer.
To say the least, we must refrain from shooting in the dark and accept that we have a serious problem in the form of terrorism that will prevent the nation from moving forward with democracy.
MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
www.Centcom.mil/Ur
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So can Pakistan stabilize in a vacuum with an unstable afghanistan? What did US achieve from 2001-2009 before the "surge" in halting poppy production and reining in warlords to achieve genuine democracy? I can bet $100 that women rights organizations like RAWA were calling america to act wisely, but it did not do it.
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Railway, PIA, Pakistan Steel mill, Pepco, PSO and other major Institutions having completely or partiality bankrupt. who is responsible? Democracy
It is not the democracy but the Pakistani nation that is responsible. We want services but are not willing to pay for it . Nobody pays for train tickets and electric bills. Power companies then can't pay PSO for fuel. All of them suffer from theft and lack of revenue. Then they all have bloated and incompetent staff who can't do any thing but keeps on growing. This is not something that has happened just now. The present democratic government has not helped anything either and get their part of the blame but really it is a national attitude problem. We want services and jobs but are unwilling to pay taxes, pay bills and work hard (as a nation).
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These extremely inefficient nationalised companies need to be privatised to foreign companies. They will bring their expertise and entrepreneurship to make such vital services a success/
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Go and do some work in North Korea the peoples there need you guys badly for seeing so called democracy, you and we both know how in a dirty game we are involved so as per I said in my previous post why you and some others just leave us alone to settled our problems, the majority of us know very well what we are facing.
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So you are for exporting terror?
hehehe
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Dear “EyesOnSky”
Your frustration is certainly evident from your response, and given the recent chain of events between our nations, one could certainly understand this hostility. With that said, let’s not forget that both nations have lost many brave soldiers in this common war, and no two other nations could understand each other’s sacrifices better. The common mission has held us together and will lead us to the finish line. The US fully appreciates all of Pakistan’s efforts in this WOT and knows that Pakistan continues to pay the highest price. Please understand that despite any disagreements, the enemies have always viewed us as a common threat preventing them from achieving their evil objectives in the region. Terrorist organizations like the Haqqani network have openly vowed their allegiance to the Taliban, and cross border attacks have resulted in troops dying on both sides of the border. The seriousness of the situation requires us to bury the hatchet, and for that reason our governments continue to place the importance of our partnership above everything else. Let the past be the past, and let’s focus on the common goal of clearing the region from terrorism.
MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
www.Centcom.mil/Ur
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Democracy mean Benazir Bhutto.