Ibn_Sadique:
Brother righteous – It’s so easy to criticise others especially when one doesn’t have the knowledge about the subject!!!
I hope that you are not accusing or implying that Sunnis do not use their brains
Yes I am. Those who start using brains revert to Shiasm.
Imam Bukhari (rahimullah) and Imam Muslim (rahimullah) and other Sunni hadith compilers all stated that if any hadith within their books contradicted the Quran should be discarded.
But the fact remains that only handful hadith in Sahih Bukhari are problematic.
Whereas Al Kafi was given seal of approval by your 12th infallible imam saying “hadha kafin li-shi’atina” (This is sufficient for our Shi’ah). (What?!! Couldn’t the infallible imam see that there were more than 70% weak hadith among the lot and sort it out there and then so that you Shias wouldn’t have any problems - His ‘job’ is to guide you lot, right?).
And it is a fact the al Kafi the most ‘authentic’ Shia hadith book is about 26% Sahih according to eminent Shia scholars!
We never take al kafi as sahih and we are open to any criticism of it, since our religion is defined by QUran. You cannot say the same about Sunnis.
You have picked fast on Hz. Abu Bakr (ra) Hz. Umar (may Allah be pleased with both) without considering what was going around that time.
At that time the Quran was in process of being compiled as we know it now.
Read the words uttered by Hz. Abu Bakr (ra) and ponder: “You are transmitting conflicting hadiths that clash with the sayings of the Prophet. The persons to come after you will be in a worse predicament.
But Allah took the responsibility of preserving Quran. Are you saying that the two are more powerful then Allah or nauzubillah they undertook responsibility of what God promised was His.
Now be ready for a shock – Hz. Ali (ra) did exactly what you are accusing Shaikhain Hz. Abu Bakr (ra) Hz. Umar (may Allah be pleased with both) of:
Ali pronounced the following khutba, (sermon delivered at the noon prayer on Friday): “Those who have about them pages of hadiths, destroy them. For, what causes havoc among people is their abandonment of the Quran, and in abiding by the injunctions of the scholars.”
Ibn Abdul Berr, Camiyul Beyanul Ilm
They came to report to Ali and said: “The public is engrossed in hadiths.” “Is that so?” asked Ali. The answer was in the affirmative. “I had heard the Prophet say that a mischievous dissension seemed to lurk ahead.” I asked him what could that be and he replied: “The salvation is in the Quran. Those that went before you and those that will come after you are within reach of the Quran, the Book that settles all disputes; it is no joke, mind you. Anyone who abandons It will be subject to the wrath of God. Anyone seeking a truer path will go astray. It is the infallible rope of God. It is full of wisdom. It leads man along the right path. It is the Book that will surely lead youin the right direction;, scholars will never be able to embrace it totally, a Book with inexhaustible riches.”
Sunnan-i Tirmizi/Darimi
See how the Quranist use what you state to debunk hadith.
ATTITUDE OF THE FOUR CALIPHS TOWARD THE HADITHS - Quranic Researh Group - www.quranic.org
You should also be aware the it was the ‘Sunnis’ who were the first who compiled the hadith in the first place. Shias followed suit centuries later!!
Early Hadith
Are There Any Early Hadiths?
I am so shocked, I just died and went to hell and met some famous personalities while I was there.
Ok now I am back.
Shia’s never claimed that Prophet (SAW) forbid recording of hadith. Ali could say what he said (though you havent quoted a source) but he was absolutely right about it. Quran is the ultimate source and Ali was the second part (of Quran and Ahlul Bayt) that Prophet (SAW) asked us to hold fast, but you don’t believe in that do you.
We are way off topic, but you are way off the mark. Think objectively and honestly and may Allah guide you to the right path.