Question: What is the aim of circumcision of men in Islam?
The aim of circumcision of man in Islam firstly is to distinguish between Muslim man and others; this is an important sign to know someone’s religion after his death. If he is circumcised, then he is a Muslim so Muslims carry out washing him, shrouding him, perform prayers upon him and burying him in Muslims’ graves. Circumcision preserves his rights as a Muslim after his death; this happens mostly during accidents and wars so they know the religion by circumcision.
Secondly, the prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said that the description of the people of paradise where we all hope to go, is that they are circumcised, so circumcision is a glad tiding that a Muslim will go to paradise.
Thirdly, modern medicine also mentioned the medical benefits for circumcision for men; they said that viruses, microbes and germs collect around the foreskin which is cut and this lead to infection and diseases like cancer, so some European countries tend to men circumcision lately after realizing the medical benefits.
Islam firstly is to distinguish between Muslim man and others; this is an important sign to know someone’s religion after his death. If he is circumcised, then he is a Muslim so Muslims carry out washing him, shrouding him, perform prayers upon him and burying him in Muslims’ graves. Circumcision preserves his rights as a Muslim after his death; this happens mostly during accidents and wars so they know the religion by circumcision.
Can't disagree with you on this more. I agree that circumcision is sunnat, but the above mentioned reasoning is illogical.
First, male circumcision is not restricted to islam. Jew males also practice it. So in a war between Jews and Muslims, how will you differentiate a Muslim corpse from a Jew corpse, whenn both would be circumcised?
Second, an adult converted male Muslim is not obligated to circumcision, unless he can do it himself or have his wife do it on him. Keeping your privates covered is fard, while circumcision is sunnah. To follow sunnah, a male adult cannot violate fard. What will you do with the dead body of a Muslim who converted, but never had circumcision done? How will you identify him?
Thirdly, what if you find bunch of females dead bodies? Is there a way to identify a dead female Muslim from a dead female Christian?
I can go on and on, but I think that above should be sufficient.
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i think the aim is to remove the foreskin, but i defer to the considerable expertise of TLK in all matters in this area.
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I did not realise circumcision was sunnah, is it spelled out in a hadith?
^ Prophet said. "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, cutting the moustaches short, clipping the nails, and depilating the hair of the armpits."
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I did not realise circumcision was sunnah, is it spelled out in a hadith?
Disagreement among scholars. Some say it is a stressed Sunnah. Others say it is Waajib
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Disagreement among scholars. Some say it is a stressed Sunnah. Others say it is Waajib
what is the belief in mainstream islam then?
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first and foremost its God commanded us to do so That is our reason of doing it.
Also I think it keep people clean.
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first and foremost its God commanded us to do so .....
That's the only sensible explanation.
what is the belief in mainstream islam then?
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I think most say that is sunnah. Zeeshan should tell better, but I never heard of it been wajib.
Circumcision was not something that prophet started. It was already part of Arab tradition. He just let it continue, and encouraged it s amongst males.
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According to what I know: Circumcision is called Sunnat-e-Ibrahimi. According to tradition (mentioned in bible too), it was a covenant made between Allah and Ibrahim (AS) that all male children in the family of Ibrahim (AS) shall be circumcised.
Islam adopted quite a few things from the sunnah and religion of Ibrahim (AS), and circumcision is one of them.
Circumcision is fard (compulsory and obligatory) in Judaism as all Jews are children of Ibrahim (AS) … but circumcision is sunnah in Islam (not obligatory but recommended and preferred).
Anyhow, due to covenant (agreement) between Allah and Ibrahim (AS), applicable on all male descendant of Ibrahim (AS), I believe, a Muslim who is also descendant of Ibrahim (AS), circumcision should be obligatory.
Note: Most Arabs, especially all Quraish were descendant of Ibrahim (AS) and thus they used to practice circumcision as obligation on them.
What is the aim of circumcision of men in Islam?
Off topic but this one of my friends told me:
Why do Jewish men get circumcision?
Because Jewish women don't touch anything unless it's 20% off
Re: What is the aim of circumcision of men in Islam?
According to what I know: Circumcision is called Sunnat-e-Ibrahimi. According to tradition (mentioned in bible too), it was a covenant made between Allah and Ibrahim (AS) that all male children in the family of Ibrahim (AS) shall be circumcised.
Islam adopted quite a few things from the sunnah and religion of Ibrahim (AS), and circumcision is one of them.
Circumcision is fard (compulsory and obligatory) in Judaism as all Jews are children of Ibrahim (AS) … but circumcision is sunnah (not obligatory but recommended and preferred) in Islam.
Anyhow, due to covenant (agreement) between Allah and Ibrahim (AS), applicable on all male descendant of Ibrahim (AS), I believe, a Muslim who is also descendant of Ibrahim (AS), circumcision should be obligatory.
Note: Most Arabs, especially all Quraish were descendant of Ibrahim (AS) and thus they used to practice circumcision as obligation on them.
So you are saying it is fard on descendants of Ibrahim (AS) and only sunnah on all other muslims?
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So you are saying it is fard on descendants of Ibrahim (AS) and only sunnah on all other muslims?
What I am saying is that, circumcision is practice adopted by Ibrahim (AS) due to covenant between Allah and Ibrahim (AS). According to that covenant, all male descendant of Ibrahim (AS) should get circumcised.
Islam adopted the practice not as fard, but as Sunnah of Ibrahim (AS), and recommend that it should be practiced.
For children of Ibrahim (AS), not due to Islam, but due to the covenant between Allah and Ibrahim (AS), this is obligatory ... so that the covenant ... or agreement between Allah and Ibrahim (AS), gets fulfilled.
In practice, it does not matter, as all who are born Muslims do get circumcised (as it is recommended). Those who are not born Muslim but are descendant of Ibrahim (AS) get circumcised too, so if they become Muslim they are already circumcised.
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What I am saying is that, circumcision is practice adopted by Ibrahim (AS) due to covenant between Allah and Ibrahim (AS). According to that covenant, all male descendant of Ibrahim (AS) should get circumcised. .....
any particular reasons for that?
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any particular reasons for that?
any particular reason of adopting the practice?
Islam adopted pretty much every thing from Deen-e-Ibrahimi, except for the things that people innovated later on. Many of the rituals and practices that are part of Islam (including Hajj, Zakat and Roza) came to us from Deen-e-Ibrahimi.
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Islam firstly is to distinguish between Muslim man and others; this is an important sign to know someone’s religion after his death. If he is circumcised, then he is a Muslim so Muslims carry out washing him, shrouding him, perform prayers upon him and burying him in Muslims’ graves. Circumcision preserves his rights as a Muslim after his death; this happens mostly during accidents and wars so they know the religion by circumcision.
Can't disagree with you on this more. I agree that circumcision is sunnat, but the above mentioned reasoning is illogical.
First, male circumcision is not restricted to islam. Jew males also practice it. So in a war between Jews and Muslims, how will you differentiate a Muslim corpse from a Jew corpse, whenn both would be circumcised?
Second, an adult converted male Muslim is not obligated to circumcision, unless he can do it himself or have his wife do it on him. Keeping your privates covered is fard, while circumcision is sunnah. To follow sunnah, a male adult cannot violate fard. What will you do with the dead body of a Muslim who converted, but never had circumcision done? How will you identify him?
Thirdly, what if you find bunch of females dead bodies? Is there a way to identify a dead female Muslim from a dead female Christian?
I can go on and on, but I think that above should be sufficient.
Even more fundamental than that ... Can you imagine Muslims going around taking a peek of the private parts of corpses? ... That is such a ridiculous copy paste ... Hasanelgouz does it again.
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That is why I said that I can go on and on … , as I wanted to bring that point up too. Am glad that you mentioned that. :k:
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it may sound funny but it's fact.
during Hindu-Muslim riots in India, circumcision is the criterion to establish his identity. since Muslims are circumcised and Hindus aren't, checking out the circumcision makes it easier to identify the victim's religion.
some progressive Muslims, who started acquiring Hindu First names, have stopped getting circumcised which is causing confusion among the killers. similarly, lower caste Hindus who have converted to Islam pose the same problem.
btw, all followers of the Ibraaheemii religions are 'supposed' to be circumcised. even some Hindus in India have their children circumcised for health reasons.
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