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[Jafri]

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1. Belief of 12 imams are infallible, their words and the words of the marja are the WORDS of God (as per Jafri’s own blog post)
2. Slandering, abusing, criticizing the sahaba and the wives of Rasulullah(saw)
3. Denying khilaft of the first three Caliphs (raa)
4. Mutah(zinnah) being halal

Ahle Sunnah is unanimous in declaring them kafir, for the last 1300 years. There should be no ifs or buts about it.

1. Ever heard of 33:33? It’s a wonderful ayah really, you should check into it, and if you have any objections, please do explain. And do tell me who is counted in the progeny mentioned in the ayah, don’t bring any silly play as you did make an entry in your blog of the ‘family tree’, and the Ahl-al-Bayt (as) are correctly listed.

Brother, the maraje take everything they have learned from the Qur’aan and (some) ahadith, obviously if the ahadith is against or out of line with the qur’aan, it is not authentic, and it is not a law. If the laws are taken form the Qur’aan, why would it not be the law of Allah (swt)? Maraje are nothing but so, to help us understand.

2. Allah (swt) created tests, jsut because they were the wives of the Prophet (saw) does not make them innocent. We love Bibi Khadija (ra) and Umme Salmah (ra), we love the wives of the Prophet, but these 2 were sent as a test. What about Iblees? Why was he created as an angel despite Allah (swt) knowing all, knowing that he would become shaitaan? I’m sure you have heard about the dogs barking. There is a Bukhari hadith where the Prophet (saw) told Aisha and Hafsa they are worse than the brothers of Yousuf (as). I do not have it with me but I will edit this post with it.

EDIT:

Volume 9, Book 92, Number 406:
Narrated 'Aisha:

(the mother of believers) Allah’s Apostle during his fatal ailment said, “Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer.” I said, “If Abu Bakr stood at your place (in prayers, the people will not be able to hear him because of his weeping, so order 'Umar to lead the people in prayer.” He again said, "Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer " Then I said to Hafsa, “Will you say (to the Prophet), 'If Abu Bakr stood at your place, the people will not be able to hear him be cause of his weeping, so order 'Umar to lead the people in prayer?” Hafsa did so, whereupon Allah’s Apostle said, “You are like the companions of Joseph (See Qur’an, 12:30-32). Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer.” Hafsa then said to me, “I have never received any good from you!”

3. I discussed this earlier in this thread. Following Ali (as) does not mean denying Ali (as).

4. Ever heard of misyar?

Ahl e Tashi and Ahl e Sunnat both have had some disagreements in declaring the non-believers as najis, the Shia have unanimously declared nawaasibs as najaasat though.