What if...

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Re: What if…

@Mr.Popat

We believe Allah raised a prophet from among us who has been given the title of Mahdi and Messiah. And we dont just believe this out of a blue. Since we say we are Muslims,** we do provide evidence from Quran and ahadith to prove that what we believe is not something that Islam does not teach.** We have the evidence that we put forth.. and to which since people don’t have answers of.. they ban our books.. they ban us from preaching.. its the sign of being frightful.. this is how we see it.

Bhai if you are not interested in reading the answers then it is not our fault.

We request you to interpret quran and hadith like sahabah and earlier scholars did, if you are deviating from the established aqeedah then you should have a self check first.

As far as the credibility of Hz Ahmad(as) is concerned, I have said this many many times before.. and ill say this again. I can very calmly talk to you about him, His character, His teachings, His claims etc… but why dont we first settle the issue or the position to which he is sitting. Until and unless that issue is not settled, how does it matter how pious Hz Ahmad(as) was ?
If you keep failing grade 5, you will be kept in grade 5. You cant ask the school to upgrade you if you keep failing it. Similarly, if you pass first step, only then can I go ahead and teach you grade 6. But if you keep denying the fact that theres no possibility of prophethood.. then really.. i need to teach you that first and then the next grade would be to tell you how he is the prophet. I hope that make sense.

look Mr popat, what best we can achieve after days of discussion on your aqaidh? maximum that Hadrat essa alihaysallam is no more alive, there will be a new prophet(under whatever defination) but the main point that MGAQ was mehdi or not that we are now discussing here will remain unanswered.

Through my experiance in discussing aqeedah of this group i am certain that the shortest way to know what is haq is through establishment of credibility of MGAQ.

See , what is more better route, collecting samples of water and sending them to lab waiting for weeks and getting results that the water is not healthy to drink or by just visiting the water source that is right in front of you to see how much filth is in there.

I guarantee you, no one can deny the evidences and the interpretation we put forth of Quran and ahadith. The end result always has been criticizing my jamaat.. I have been here for a very long time, talking to you people about prophethood and the death of Jesus A.S. I havent come across any answer on these issues that could satisfy me. My standard is Quran and ahadith. You bring me evidence and I will be with you.. but till then.. no one can stop the progress of Jamaat e Ahmadiyya.

Just check the declassified information that i shared for 1974 assembly session on the issue.

Bhai your standard is quran o hadith do not mean that you follow quran and hadith. we believe that your intrepretation of quran and hadith do not corelate with the intrepretation of ijmah of ummat from 1500 years. This has been proved at this very forum so many times.

Haq is evident from the posts of respected brothers Ibn Saddique and Psyah, all you have to do is not to let your biases stop you from accepting haq.