What if...

[Mr.Popat]

Re: What if…

@bao_bihari

One thing Mr Popat, this is what you assume will happen.We can discuss this assumption later, why not just discuss the issue at hand, Was MGA the Mehdi every one is waiting for?what MGA achieved, look you need to shows us true character of MGA and respond to our basic queries like why he apparently lied or made abusive remarks waghaira waghaira that stops us for accepting any thing from him. Lets just establish his credibility then you can always discuss other issues.

I can assume that you believe MGA as some one dependable so you believe in his intrepretations(regardless of how different it were from whole ummah) and we dont believe him rather we believe that our aqeedah remained consistent throughout these 1500 so years. We have chain of ahadith till our beloved and we have sawad e azam(majority of ummat) with us.

These issues i believe are some thing that should be discussed rather then some perceived events that can never unite us due to element of difference in perception.

One last request, just make niyyat that you will discuss these issues with respected brothers Ibn Saddique and Psyah with the desire to find haq and not to prove your point.

EDIT: Due to nature of our differences one thing is sure , only one of these groups will get ticket in jannat, so lets pray that we all book this ticket

We believe Allah raised a prophet from among us who has been given the title of Mahdi and Messiah. And we dont just believe this out of a blue. Since we say we are Muslims, we do provide evidence from Quran and ahadith to prove that what we believe is not something that Islam does not teach. We have the evidence that we put forth.. and to which since people don’t have answers of.. they ban our books.. they ban us from preaching.. its the sign of being frightful.. this is how we see it.

As far as the credibility of Hz Ahmad(as) is concerned, I have said this many many times before.. and ill say this again. I can very calmly talk to you about him, His character, His teachings, His claims etc… but why dont we first settle the issue or the position to which he is sitting. Until and unless that issue is not settled, how does it matter how pious Hz Ahmad(as) was ?

If you keep failing grade 5, you will be kept in grade 5. You cant ask the school to upgrade you if you keep failing it. Similarly, if you pass first step, only then can I go ahead and teach you grade 6. But if you keep denying the fact that theres no possibility of prophethood.. then really.. i need to teach you that first and then the next grade would be to tell you how he is the prophet. I hope that make sense.

I guarantee you, no one can deny the evidences and the interpretation we put forth of Quran and ahadith. The end result always has been criticizing my jamaat.. I have been here for a very long time, talking to you people about prophethood and the death of Jesus A.S. I havent come across any answer on these issues that could satisfy me. My standard is Quran and ahadith. You bring me evidence and I will be with you.. but till then.. no one can stop the progress of Jamaat e Ahmadiyya.