Re: What if…
^ Salaam brother lethal kamikaze More importantly this is a hijacked thread of sister Ma Mooli - Her protests fell on deaf ears
Believing on a false prophet is NOT a sin ( IF and only IF he is, nauzubillah ). Quran is full of people and nations on whom Allah sent wrath for not believing on his prophet. Can you tell me if theres any punishment from Allah for believing in a prophet who says im in complete subordinate of the prophet prior to him, and even if hes false ? what is the punishment for his followers ? increase in numbers ? Having Allah’s help everywhere ? Giving victory to the followers ? the mission getting every corner of the Earth ?
a) Increase in numbers? Your erstwhile khalifah had claimed 200 Million strong Ahmadis worldwide in 2003!!!
His successor claims 70 Million!!! lol
You said increase in numbers? You just lost 130 Million!!! Lool at your Khalifahs – Is this what you call:
Having Allah’s help everywhere ? Giving victory to the followers ? the mission getting every corner of the Earth ?
So Allah Almighty helped you guys LOSE 130 Millions in matter of 5 years!!! Incredible progress in reverse gear.
See the link below: lol
The 200 Million Figure - wiki
Mirza Tahir Ahmad, a short while before his death claimed that there were 200 million total Ahmadies. This was the figure that was on the official website of Ahmadiyya jamaat for several years ( no increase took place due to new bai’ts and normal population growth).
Last year (or year before last) , without explanation, the figure was drastically changed from 200 million to “tens of millions”. An Overview ( Screen shot of the current alislam.org is appended below in case they decide to change their minds again.
• 1993 - 204,308
• 1994 - 421,753
• 1995 - 847,725
• 1996 - 1,602,721
• 1997 - 3,004,575
• 1998 - 5,004,591
• 1999 - 10,820,226
• 2000 - 41,308,376
• 2001 - 81,007,631
• 2002 - 20,654,000
How many are out there, really! » ahmedi.org | ahmedi.org
Mirza Tahir Ahmad died in 2003
In an interview to a British newspaper Mirza Masroor says “Allah gave him strength, he [Mirza Masroor] says. By the next morning the fear had subsided and he set to work from his London base, leading the estimated 70 million Ahmadiyya Muslims in more than 180 countries”: (Please note that this is on the official alislam.org webpage) http://alislam.org/khilafat/fifth/preaching%20peace.pdf
Date of interview June 14, 2008
http://alislam.org/khilafat/fifth/preaching%20peace.pdf
Be honest tell how many are there? Let’s settle for 10 million? We can’t trust Ahmadi leaders, they are just throwing figures around. Plucking from thin air.
b) Your Khaleefahs are guests of Head of Church of England (The British Queen) – the same very people Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had claimed to have destroyed now his jamaat is under their protection!!!
My dear friend Popat – Peace You seem to have conveniently ignored to address my post. (Above)
In 2003 your leader boastfully claims over 200 Millions Ahmadis
In 2008 his successor boasts Ahmadi population of 70 Million!!!
What happened to 130 Million? Disappeared into thin air?
Or are they just plucking up the figures from thin air?
Check the following and see how wide your leaders are from the real truth.
According to some estimates the total population of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community worldwide is over 10 million, of whom 8,202,000 live in south asia.[35]
Estimations put 4,910,000 in Pakistan, 1 million adherents in India, 200,000 in Indonesia, 100,000 in Bangladesh.[36]
The Ahmadi population among the western nations is relatively humble. There are 30,000 in Britain,[37] 30,000 in Germany, 25,000 in Canada and about 15,000 in the United States.
There are also a considerable number of Ahmadis from sub-Saharan Africa. In the year 1957, there were 100,000 Ahmadis from the African Republic of Ghana.[38] As of 1994, there were 150,000 converts to the Ahmadiyya Community from French-speaking countries.[39] Pew Research Center reports that among the Muslims, the country with the largest proportion of Ahmadis is Ghana (16%) followed by 15% in Tanzania, 12% in Cameroon and 10% in Libera. Among the surveyed countries smallest proportions are found in Senegal (1%), 2% each in Mali and Guinea Bissau, 3% in Nigeria and 4% each in Uganda, Chad and Kenya. Pew also reports 6% each in DR Congo and Niger.[40] This ranges from a few thousand in DR Congo where the Muslim population is as little as 1.5%, to almost 2.5 million in Nigeria, the country with the highest Muslim population. Were these results extrapolated to the rest of sub-Saharan Africa, the Ahmadi adherents would by far exceed 10 million, potentially reaching in the low tens of millions worldwide.
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17th August 2009 PRESS RELEASE: Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the World Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat, a Muslim organisation with an estimated 80 million members in 192 countries,
Muslim Leader Urges Peaceful Propagation of Islam « Islam Ahmadiyya
Mr. Popat – Is Mirza Tahir Ahmad telling the truth? Or is that Mirza Masroor Ahmad is lying?
The fact is that they both are lying.
increase in numbers ? Having Allah’s help everywhere ? Giving victory to the followers ? the mission getting every corner of the Earth ?
You claim: Having Allah’s help everywhere ? Giving victory to the followers ?
Firstly the seat of Ahmadi/Qadiani Khilafaat was Qadian, then moved to Rubwa and now moved to London.
You call this Allah Almighty’s help, been chased out of the home grounds?
Secondly none of Ahmadis/Qadianis leadership (except one Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad perfrom hajj courtesy of British authorities as they had influence there and Uthmani Khilaffat was on the way out) this includes the founder ‘prophet’ had the honour to perform Hajj which is one of articles of faith in Islam.
Ahmadis/Qadianis nowadays do perform hajj or visit Islamic holy sites sneakily with western passports and dare not announce that they are Ahmadis. Wouldn’t Allah Almighty facilitate his most faithful so that they can perform duties to him in peace and security?
If Allah Almighty’s help was there the Ahmadis/Qadianis should be able to visit Islamic holy sites with their heads held high proud to be openly what they are.
Victory? What victory? Against whom?