What if...

[obaid1982]

Re: What if…

@shardmanny

salam obaid
we believe in All Prophets of Allah, our guide Muhammad SAW has left us Guidance on which we will prosper in the hearafter and he is Imam ul anbiya. the generations before us have passed on without Isa AS guiding them other then the lessons from his seerah. we do not need Isa AS to guide us as such, we need Allah SWT’s help, Isa AS is that help. with the muslims he will pray amongst us, and atleast once pray behined our imam. Allah SWT has decreed that He and His Messengers shall be successful, and theres a few other reasons why this mission has to be Prophet Isa AS’s. the Real and in person Prophet Isa AS. this only represents my own view

First of all, walaikum salam.
So you are saying since muslim ummah needed Allah’s help, Allah will resend Issa (as). Do you realize how stupid this argument sound. Nauzobillah Allah couldnt find another way to help muslim ummah but to send them a prophet from Bani Israel. Or perhaps nauzobillah Allah couldnt trust Imam Mahdi enough so he decided two is better than one. And if Isa (as) was so essential for the fulfillment of this mission, why was there a need for Imam Mahdi? The more you think about it, the clearer it becomes that Issa and Mahdi are infact the same person.
I am sure you have been presented several verses of quran that describe the death of Issa (as). If you would like I can provide them again.
In fact, the first Ijmaa of muslim proves the death of Issa (as). When holy prophet (saw) passed away, Umar (ra) was not ready to believe his death. At that time Abu Bakr (ra) recited that verse of Quran that Muhammad (saw) was just a prophet and has passed away just like ALL the prophets before him. And yes, it does mean ALL prophets. If you need further clarification, i’ll gladly provide it.

but if you are into ‘sir syed’ type rationalism, then talk to mughal1 for understanding, as you’ll never be able to understand us. and there will remain an unbridgeable difference which will leave us talking at each other

sir syed was not another prophet of yours or was he? whats his rank in qadianism?

Sir Syed has nothing to do with Ahmadis. If anything, he was an opponent of Ahmadiyyat. I was merely describing what did the prominent Non-Ahmadi muslim of that age thought about Mirza Sahib (as) since Bao Bihari had raised a question about character of Mirza Sahib.

tell me when did the ummah of RasoolAllah SAW go wrong? as you cannot even understand us and we consider ourselves ummattis of Muhammad SAW, you believe only in umatti nabi, right? so it means we were given the scripture but we messed up, tell me when that occurred? in the Quran the review of the muslims is glowing ‘best of nations raised up for mankind’, and whoever does not aim to believe like Sahaba is a disbeliever etc

I am not sure what your question is here. I cannot give you a particular year that muslims went wrong. It happened gradually just as Prophet (saw) had predicted. Or are you implying that nothing went wrong with muslims?