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I know janab , I say we should just get ride of these army people , good for nothing . We should have PPP government and only Jiyalaz should be allowed in the army . Lets also replace Islam with Bhuttoism . Do this and Pakistan will be a heaven on earth in no time . Thanks God that he blessed us with such a pious and hardworking government in last 5 years , and we’ll be nothing but happy if they’ll stay here for another 100 years .
Jiyaaaaaaa Bhuttooooooooo 
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Actual problem is never discussed here . Guzeshtah sath sal say establishment ki musalsal dakhl andazi aur ahmqanah iqdamat nay mulk ki har buniad ko tabah kar dia .Sab say bura Zulm mulk ki har non-punjabi non-puppet qiadat ko ghadar kehnay ki rawait nay kia .Qaidin kay qatl aur jalawatnion nay adam estahkam aur adam etmad ki aik aisi fiza qaim kar di keh shurfa kay liay siasat karna na mumkin ho gia , Ab siraf third rate siasat dan bachay hain , Unhi say kam chalana hay . Misal kay tor par Imran Khan jo itna badkirdar hay keh hamari site par Mods us ki Zindgi ko discuss bhi naheen karnay detay .
Actually we need a new social regional and political contract . Limits of every organization should be satteled .Government , Army , Judiciary ,assemblies , bureaucracy even media should sit together and settle it for future . Role of army should be openly discussed and its wide spread businesses should be give some frame for future so it can work as army . Jo ehtsab ki bat karta hay woh jhoot bolta hay . Is mulk main is stage par ehtsab na mumkin hay because minimum 95% of the people having some powers are corrupt . Jo leader kehta hay main honest hoon woh sab say bara jhoota hay .
Pasha sahib: Women should have respect as it is their gender birth right. But when a woman sells herself for money, she loses respect and gets known as prostitute. A known prostitute could not demand or expect respect. People who would respect her are people who do not know that she is prostitute.
Similarly, politicians should have respect as it is their professional right. But when politicians sell themselves for money (become prostitute), they lose respect and get known as corrupt. A known corrupt (politician or whoever) could not demand or expect respect. People who respect corrupt politicians are either corrupt themselves or are ignorant of their corruption.
Politicians rule country on strength of their honesty, moral high ground, respect, and public support. Bureaucrats, Judiciary, law enforcing agencies, and Armed forces support them because they cannot harm them if politician is honest, standing on moral high ground, and can command respect.
So, if Pakistani politicians do not want to get kicked from power by armed forces regularly, or do not want problems from Judiciary and Bureaucracy, then they have to start standing on morally high ground. For that, they have to stop corruption, nepotism, bad management, and start doing all dealings, financial as well as administrative, transparently.
If they (politicians) would not do that (stop corruption, nepotism, bad management, and start doing all dealings, financial as well as administrative, transparently) then they should not blame armed forces for kicking them from power or hanging them ... neither they should blame judiciary and bureaucracy when they put hurdle in front of these politicians.
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Actual problem is never discussed here . Guzeshtah sath sal say establishment ki musalsal dakhl andazi ......
You are free to discuss the 'actual problem' here. Blaming 'others' for your haram khori is typical of PPP though. Hiding all the corruption, mismanagement and incompetence of present government behind 'establishment' sounds rhetoric.
Does establishment order PPP to act like vultures as soon as they find a chance? It is people like PPP ruling elite that give military an easy excuse to interfere. If they show a little bit of spine and actually WORK a little bit for the country, the whole nation would be with them and actually resist any interference from military. The conduct of Nawaz Sharif for most of PPP government's tenure is a strong evidence that people would actually back resistance efforts.
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Pasha sahib: Women should have respect as it is their gender birth right. But when a woman sells herself for money, she loses respect and gets known as prostitute. A known prostitute could not demand or expect respect. People who would respect her are people who do not know that she is prostitute.
Thank you for this ,Same for men passed their life as a male prostitute and when became old started charity business and politics .
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Thank you for this ,Same for men passed their life as a male prostitute and when became old started charity business and politics .
Well, male-prostitute is an imagination of a party whose alcohol-lover chief builds casino, whose chief flirts with woman on international scene on a tv representing his country. IK was a play-boy at best, similar to the beloved party's next-in-line chief.
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If PPP comes back into power, then it would be a dark day in our political history. The only thing that can bring a somewhat positive swing to PPP getting re-elected is for PPP voters to have enough sense to at least not to elect the known corrupt names from the current government, starting with the 'honorable PM and President'. However, that presents another problem, as the list of corrupt names runs very deep, and eliminating them all would leave PPP with virtually noone. The few who we used to think as clean (Aitezaz Ahsan, Amin Fahim) have turned dirty as well in the past years.
So barring a complete cleanup of the party, I dont see any thing good coming out of them getting reelected.
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Agar aa jain to most welcome balkah mujhay khushi hogi 
main inn par iss he tarah tanqeed jari o sari rakhon ga akhir ko yah mairay diye hoye tukroon (tax) par he paltay hain 
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Kiya baat kee hay aap nay. 
Kewn kay aap poetry kay shauqeen lagtay hain … ham aap kay dil kee tarjumani kay liyea dou misra kah daytain hain. Waisay, Aap jatna chahain hukumat per tanqeed kar saktay hain, meray misray per tanqeed na karna :).
Unhay laata hay koyi aur voton kay zor per
Unhay paltay hain ham mahnat kay tax say
Ab kuch na kar sakain tou tanqeed hee sahi
Majburi kee yea ada sakun-e-dil bhie hay
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sheyr acha hai:k:
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wah wah 
kia baat hay Saleem Bhai kia Barjusta poetry key hay :k: aap poetry section main bhi munh ka zaiqa change karnay aa jaya karain jaisay main idhar aata hoon munh ka zaiqa change karnay
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maira khayal tha aap yahan soota laganay aatay hain!!!
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Jee nahi ! Office ki saari frustration nikaalne aate hain:hehe:
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Kia yaad dilla dia 
Cirgut bhi ittnay mahangy ho gaiay hain kah mat pochaain leekan iss zulam par koi thread open naheen howa hay 
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office main aur frustration 
main idhar he hota hoon ziyada tar
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this seems to be the only positive thing coming out of current government’s tenure 
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Lets not turn this into cafe 
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yeh to apse kissi aur ne kahaa tha…
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It can’t be done.
It won’t be done. That’s how this house rolls.:shoaby:That’s how Pakistan parties. 
To be severely technical, you just wasted 6 lines, 126 words and 572 characters for your above post. It’s just not happening. There are criminals in most political parties, from top to bottom. Small or large, criminals still. You can count the good guys on your two hands, and will still have fingers to spare.
Thing is the jagarderi nizaam, the feudal system. And that’s how more than half (around 60%) of our population is ruled. 
These haris are given land to cultivate on lease by the feudal. Come election time, these poor people are asked to vote for someone, and they are left with no choice. Even if some poor hari tries/says that he will vote for a clean person, these feudal will break his legs, or tell him to take his family and get out of their lands. Most parties are cursed like this.
So if the feudal lord says vote for this donkey, Facebook avatar, cup, mug, bug, tub or even a tree, it is done!
Some are village based feudal, some city based fascists. From feudal to fascists, the remaining population is left with little or no choice. These are the guys that are in the government, and will be in the assemblies/senate.
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If people of Pakistan still want these corrupt leaders as their head of states then at least i will give up on Pakistan and concentrate on my own life and career for a change. I do spend a lot of times on some forums and try to educate people and i have seen a lot of change in mindset of people in last few years.
If PPP comes back again then i will spend more time on my career and absolutely give up on my beloved country :)
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Agreed, for most of the country its only 30-40 families who matter, the person who they support wins. The strength of PPP is that they command support of most of these feudals, and if you see their policies they are in favour of keeping feudalism alive because they will lose support from the masses once the hold of feudals gets weakened and that would be the end of dynastic politics that we have now.