Afghanistan .. which is one of the common demands often Pakistanis make these days. For simplicity, lets assume the US will keep funneling money to Pakistan, which is unlikely but lets just no go to the economic ramifications.
Do you guys think there will be peace if not prosperity once the Americans leave? peace (in this context) = no bomb blasts, no random firing, no sectarian clashes.
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Taliban will take over. sure there will be peace.
But taliban are going to run Govt. in there moronic way.
I doubt there will be “peace”. In 1990s when TNSM declared “Sharia enforced” in Swat (?) it wasn’t a retaliation to any “foreign” forces, grenades/bombs were thrown in masajid across the country before 2001, sectarian killing never stopped (for last few months surprisingly its low 
). Before Musharraf resigned Pakistan was target because “they” were mad at him, but after he resigned the situation is still the same.
The terrorists who are demanding that US leave is just an excuse to carry out what they want, just like they are using Islam as their cover this demand of “foreign forces leave” is just an excuse.
Though “Taliban” are unlikely to “take over” but they are likely to carry out their activities with or without foreign forces.
Do you guys think there will be peace if not prosperity once the Americans leave? peace (in this context) = no bomb blasts, no random firing, no sectarian clashes.
ahmadjee bhaijan. USA is not the problem. It is the terrorist that have made Pakistan a safe haven for themselves. Great USA is trying to help clean up the mess.
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A thought provoking question that the supporters of Taliban will nto be able to answer.
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USA or no USA its our fight now. Scourge of terrorism must be eliminated & anyone willing to help America or anyone else should be welcome.
BTW, I don't think Americans will leave b/c if they do Taliban will take over Afghanistan & OBL and other Arab terrorists hiding in mountains will come back & restart their global jihad. That is something the US cannot afford.
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In current situation the only force with any success against taliban is local people. Enforcing local jirgah and people can really help calming down. But still this is some thing that i gathered from Geo news so don't know about the ground realities.
Leaving US forces will just create a vacuum which will be filled by the radical forces, as they are more dispersed and in contact with local people.
Stable Afghanistan can help improving situation in Pakistan. Otherwise it might calm down for some time, but won't be a permanent solution.
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Mr 10% will sell PAKISTAN to highest bidder
WASHINGTON / New York, Sept 22: The White House said on Monday that President George W. Bush’s meeting with his Pakistani counterpart was very important.
“Obviously, this meeting with President Asif Ali Zardari is very important. It’s his first meeting with the new president. We have extensive coordination and cooperation that is ongoing with Pakistan, and for good reason,” White House Press Secretary Dana Perino told a briefing in Washington.
“And the terrorists showed again this weekend why we need to make sure that we are helping train up their forces, that we are sharing information, and that we can work together to try to protect innocent people.”
Ms Perino said the terrorists were trying to kill innocent people to advance their political objectives. The United States, she said, will remain committed to working with Pakistan, while President Asif Ali Zardari too wants to work with the US.
“So I think we’ll have a good meeting,” she added.
When reminded that President Zardari said in an interview to an American TV channel earlier on Monday that if US troops cross Pakistan’s borders, they’re going to be escorted out, Ms Perino offered no comments.
She, however, said that an earlier report that Pakistani troops had fired at US helicopters on Monday were incorrect.
“I question that report, and I would refer you to the Department of Defence for the veracity of that report, because that has been debunked by the department,” she said. “I would caution you to be sceptical of some of these claims.”
She recalled that when President Zardari was elected, he said he understood the serious situation Pakistan was in. He also acknowledged that innocent people in America, in the West, and in Pakistan itself were at risk because of the terrorists.
“They know that they need to do more and do a better job, and that we’re going to be there to support them,” said the White House official.
“But we also recognise their sovereignty. And that is why the coordination and cooperation” between the two countries.
Ms Perino said the cooperation extended beyond the border region and between the two militaries.
It’s also between “our services like our intelligence services, our military, and also our law enforcement services — (who) are working closely with them to try to prevent attacks (and) also to investigate attacks after they occur.”Mr Zardari meets President Bush on Tuesday. The 30-minute meeting is expected to focus on terrorism.
Mr Zardari holds his first meeting on Monday with a deputy secretary of the US Treasury and will later attend a reception President Bush is holding for the heads of governments and states attending the UN General Assembly.
On Tuesday, Mr Zardari also meets French President Nicolas Sarkozy. He meets Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Wednesday.
At the State Department, however, the war on terror and Saturday’s blast dominated the briefing.
Hot pursuit ruled out
President Zardari declared on Monday that Pakistan would stand shoulder to shoulder with the world and “fight the terrorists”.
At the same time, he reiterated that Pakistan would not allow “hot pursuit” inside Pakistan by the US forces. “I want the world to understand that this is a signal from the terrorists. They are challenging this democracy of Pakistan. They are challenging the people of Pakistan,” Mr Zardari said in an interview with NBC news “Today” morning show.
This was President Zardari’s first interview with an American TV network since the Sept 20 bombing of Marriott Hotel in Islamabad.
“We will catch the terrorists, give us the information we will do the job,” he said when asked whether Pakistan would allow American forces to enter Pakistan in hot pursuit of suspected terrorists.
“They are challenging the world. And we are there to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the world, looking the terrorists in the eye. And we will fight them.
“We will not allow anyone inside our own border, it’s violation of the UN Charter” he said when the interviewer pointed out that American soldiers who were in hot pursuit of terrorists were crossing into Pakistan.
President Zardari arrived in New York in the afternoon heading a delegation to the 63 session of the United Nations General Assembly.
Mr Zardari is also expected to hold meetings with many world leaders on the sidelines of the UN session, including Prime Minister Wen Jiabao of China, President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad of Iran, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India, President of France Nicolas Sarkozy, President of Turkey Abdullah Gul, President of Brazil Luiz Ino Lula da Silva and President of Afghanistan Hamid Karzai.
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*All Afaghani are terrorist *
Pakistan should get rid off all Afgahni from all area of pakistan.They are biggest cancer. these people are uneducated and backward.
Do you guys think there will be peace if not prosperity once the Americans leave? peace (in this context) = no bomb blasts, no random firing, no sectarian clashes.
peace? hmm
not sure if the americans are the peacemakers of the world. looking at the history, wherever they have gone, the results have not been very peaceful, from beirut to somalia to now iraq/afghanistan/pakistan
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Once Americans are out, Yes Taliban will takeover, and they will get rid of those 11 or 14 Indian Consulates along the Pak-Afghan Border, this will reduce terrorism in our northern borders.
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Five of you think there will be no peace, two seems to suggest there will be and others aren't sure.
I actually want Americans to leave though I am not sure what will happen after that.
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Northern alliance will receive militairy and economic aid from india, russia and iran as they did pre 9/11..
the point here is...no one wants to see taliban back in afganistan not even china and there is a broad consensus over this issue...
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the question here should be..who wants to see taliban back in afganistan???
the answer here is none except pakistan....
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^ So then why was there no peace in Afghanistan before the talibobs?
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Because Pakistan, Iran and India were supporting other players before the Taliban as well.
Once Americans are out, Yes Taliban will takeover, and they will get rid of those 11 or 14 Indian Consulates along the Pak-Afghan Border, this will reduce terrorism in our northern borders.
I 2nd that
Right, and the answer to this is bombing the hell out of them and bring a 4th player into this, along with its allies. 
^ So then why was there no peace in Afghanistan before the talibobs?
take it this way....there can never be peace in afganistan
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^ or you dont want peace in Afghanistan, at least thats what your country India's mentality is