What government should do to solve Problem of revolting Madrasa.

No one denies that to take military operation on Madrasa may be damaging, even though, leaving the situation the way it is, is more damaging. Giving these retards any value and talking to them would be more harmful to the country than helpful.

I think that Government should do only one thing that can solve the problem in no time, peacefully and without casualties. Government should completely cut off electricity, gas, and water to the Madrasa. Plus government should surround the area and stop movement to and fro from that Madrasa, so that no person can go there and no food or water (even for drinking) can reach there.

I believe that above step would make the people living in that madrasa (and associated prayer area, so-called Mosque) leave the premises and go home or surrender within few days (If not few days then month, who cares how long it takes after that, but it would surely going to flush them out from there). Without amenities and necessities (especially water and food) no human can live too long.

Well, once they start leaving the area, the leaders of this debacle should get arrested and put into prison for years on charges of, abusing other citizens, kidnapping, arson, terrorism, and breaking the laws of the land. After putting them into prison, government should not release them or listen to any plea from anyone to release them.

All in the management of that madrasa and especially both retarded brothers that are leading the madrasa debacle are retards and deserve death sentences, though minimum punishment for them should be at least 14 years in prison, without any let.

I am sure that if Government will do that, Ijaz-ul-Haq might come pleading that it would cause problem in the country, but I believe that Ijaz-ul-Haq is himself a problem then his advice or suggestion being a solution. If he was serious, honest and intelligent, such problem would not have happened in the first place. So, he should be ignored.

Further, government should make laws that no amenities would be given to any madrasa or prayer places made on illegally occupied lands. Ideally government should not bother of any hue and cry in demolishing all madrasas and prayer places on illegally occupied land on pretext that such places cannot be Mosque.

That is obvious, as house of Allah could not be built on illegally occupied land, because illegally occupied land is stolen land, be that land belong to individual or government. And it is obvious that Allah is not thief to have his house (that is mosque) on stolen land.

I hope that some sense would come to the government to solve such problems quickly and prudently.

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Is madrasay ka anjam bhi wohi ho ga jaisa uncle bugti ka hoa tha!!
wo bhi bohot barian marat tha magar mara gia. yeh govermnet porani gov jaisi nahi hai galat panga lo gay to phanti paray gi.
:D

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Bhai, when we have people like Ijaz-ul-Retard in the government and people like him, what is happening is obvious. Chaudharis are also not behind in being Retard supporters. They would try to protect these retarded mullahs in every way.

It is because of these retards in the government, we are seeing most of the problems in Pakistan. I believe that if President would decide to change the team working with him, it would be because of these retarded idiots.

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Shouldn't we question the wisdom ofthe retard who apoointed these retard in the first place or is he untouchable despite appointing all these retards in his government. Your words not mine.

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Sometime, a person has to act according to circumstances and availability. Just imagine a very intelligent person with a business and retarded children. In the end that person has to give opportunities to those retards in the business, however intelligent that person maybe. Unfortunately, Pakistan only have politicians that are corrupts and some depends on retards.

What I believe, that was the problem of Musharraf. He has to choose between two evils. That is to rule without any corrupt politicians in the team and result would have been lot of hue and cry in the country as corrupts and retards following corrupt politicians would be jumping everywhere.

His other limitation was that Pakistan depends for lot of things on foreign powers that want to see Pakistan under corrupt politicians.

Thus, for sake of Pakistan, he had to compromise.

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^^
Another thing I would like to make clear is that, I did not called any politicians retards, though there could be some, especially amongst MMA. To me, most politicians are corrupts and thugs.

As for Ijaz-ul-Retard, he may not be retard (though could be). I named him Ijaz-ul-Retard because he is Ijaz of Retards, not Ijaz of Haq, as his supports come from retards and not from Haq.

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So Musharraf could not find any intelligent or honest people in Paksitan apart from himself and therefore he had to rely on retards. Could it be that to perpetuate his rule he needed these retards, and therefore one retard compromised with the other. :rolleyes:

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Did I write anywhere what you mentioned? :smiley: .. What I wrote is that, even though Musharraf brought many honest and hard working people to work in Pakistan, just to fulfil the requirements of sham democracy, he had to rely on corrupt (not retard but corrupt) politicians that have some root amongst people (not because they were good, but for whatever reason, they had some root amongst people). :slight_smile:

Need for sham democracy arisen because of world pressure and constitutional requirements. He could have suspended the constitution if he wanted to, as there was no force in the country that could have stopped that, but then there was world pressure too. Plus, he though and rightly so, that he would be able to control the country even with some corrupts in the team, and I believe that he is doing reasonable job.

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Janet Reno is rested and available. Waco-em'

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On the contrary, the military-dominated govt of Pakistan is strengthening "madrassa" culture in Pakistan. That is because mullahs, religious parties, and their members and followers are close and natural allies of the Pakistani military...No relgious party has ever questioned the divouring of resources by the military.

Moreover, a strong military-allied religious polity keeps the influence of secular, liberal, and pro-democracy parties in Pakistan in check to question the dominent role of the military.

So military would never abandon support to religious parties and sanctuaries.

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and strong honey-moon allies of "millitary dominated pakistan " .....MQM....for five years ..taking "mazai of wazarat and seats" .......those are the "champions" of 98 % common man of pakistan....raise slogansagainst "fuedal lords"....they are co to mulla military alliance....no one bothers...munafiq....

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Yaar can anyone here discuss the original topic of the thread than the semantics of retards. I think it is a good idea among all other ideas that are around. Non-violent and still effective. Any other suggestions?

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Well you should apprecaite that It was PM who contained MQM to its limit!

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Only education can control these mullahs!

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Or tear gas, lathis, and handcuffs.

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These are short term solutions! In the long run, only education can control them!

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Some facts. There is a small but significant (a few hundred) section of the Lal masjid madari population who are children of Pak army jawans. My relative who is in the army tells me that there is a fear among officers that jawans might disobey orders to take action in the place. The police are outgunned because there are numerous RPGs and potentially machine gun nests inside the complex. Our puls simply do not have the firepower to handle such a situation. They are usually only good for lathi charge on lawyers. However, military action is going to be very bloody.

This whole situation arose because Musharraf appeased the land grabbing madrasa leaders instead of nipping it in the bud. Since then they have moved more weapons inside the area.

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This is really very serious now!

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Till October 2002, his government comprised of worthy and good people! He had to take in corrupts and terroists in his ranks as they were elected by people.

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crack down on em. mass arrests/demolish the mosque. they're challenging the writ of the govt in the capital. unacceptable.