What evidence ICC has got?

[sharaabee]

Re: What evidence ICC has got?

indian admins have been tough on corruption? your commissioner or whatever the hell he is of IPL is being tried for corruption of some kind right now. rumors are rife of massive fixing in IPL. and you're saying Indian admin is tough on fixing? India is the bookie central of the world. the money from fixing in one way or another originates from and ends in India. and Indian admin is tough on corruption? give it a rest will ya. I know it's a bad situation for Pakistan and Indians are getting some special enjoyment out of it. but what goes around comes around. always.

armchair logic? it's called common sense. I'm getting a little sick of a holier than thou bullsiht. that Tendulkar midget was on somewhere yapping about no Indian player ever being corrupt. someone remind him of Prabhakar, the great Kapil Dev, Azharuddin, Jadeja... all players that the little rasgulla played with if I recall correctly. and if one thing's been proven over time, in any team there was fixing going on, either you were with the fixers or against them. regardless of which camp you were in, you knew that the team was fixing games. so stop with the fking lectures.

wtf are you on abt man? tell me which indian player was caught match fixing and he was not banned?

i am not talking abt india in general.. india is corrupt.. hence the corrupt bookies and IPL commissioner (btw corrupt and match fixing is not the same thing... the IPL commissioner is accused of being corrupt from an admin point of view..not fixing matches).. subcontinent is corrupt.. we all know that.. im only talking abt the cricketers.. the corrupt indian crickters were punished severely and banned.. hence this stops future players from doing this nonsense.. pak players were found guilty and they were not banned before.. and this has become part of pak cricketing culture from the looks of it.. i hope these guys are banned now..

when did sachin say "no indian player has ever been corrupt".. please show me where.. if he has then obviously he is being stupid.. cuz azhar jadeja and prabhakar were proven.. (kapil dev was not part of it)..

you are just letting your anti-india mode take over your brain...

[hhunaeh]

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He is always in the Indian media spotlight. He has to say something when the media questions him, does he not? Is this not the safe and the right thing to say? He is unlike Akram or waugh or other international cricketers who give opinions on other international teams. He generally minds his own business.

[sharaabee]

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hhunaeh.. i dont know what interview samb is talking abt.. can you pls show me where sachin has said that no indian cricketer EVER has been involved in match fixing? that would be a stupid statment to make if he did..

[hhunaeh]

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I don't know the exact interview he is referring to. Considering the way this is developing into such a hurtful/sensitive issue, i think it would be wise if the Indian cricketers and Indian fans maintain silence and say the least amount possible. I think that is what he is trying to say.

[manbearpig]

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Another retarded post by manbearpig.

Indian cricket is not corrupt. Indian bookies are.

And yet again u fail to understand the point, you indidiot.

question is not whether indian cricket is corrupt or no. The thing is that india is the source of all the corruption that is going on in international cricket. From hansie cronje to lalit modi and the recent revelation by shane watson and couple of deshi players it is quite obvious that india indeed is the source of problem.

If ICC is really serious abt removing this problem they have to start from india. Banning few players won't solve the problem. They should ban india and leave the example for the rest of countries. No player or no country is bigger than cricket.

[ehsan]

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[admin]can we please refrain from personal attacks[/admin]

[Melancholia]

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http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/475778.html

The Pakistan opener, Yasir Hameed, has issued a denial of allegations in the News of the World that he turned down a bookmaker’s offer to help fix a Test for £150,000.

Hameed, who played in two of the recent Tests against England, allegedly told the newspaper “almost every match” has been fixed and slammed his team-mates’ actions. “They’ve been caught. Only the ones that get caught are branded crooks,” he reportedly told the newspaper. "They were doing it [fixing] in almost every match.

“God knows what they were up to. Scotland Yard was after them for ages,” he was quoted as saying. “It makes me angry because I’m playing my best and they are trying to lose.”

However, when contacted by Cricinfo, Hameed flatly denied the story. “I have never spoken to the NOTW and I haven’t said anything like this,” he said. “I have been fully concentrating on my career and nothing else.”

ICC sources close to the investigation confirmed to Cricinfo that they were unaware of any such approach made to Hameed, which would mean, if the allegations are true, the player himself would be in breach of the Anti-Corruption Code of Conduct for failing to follow the proper procedures.

Article 2.4.2 states it is an offence if a player fails “to disclose to the ACSU (without undue delay) full details of any approaches or invitations received by the Player or Player Support Personnel to engage in conduct that would amount to a breach of the Anti-Corruption Code.”

“They are not aware of anything like this happening,” Yawar Saeed, Pakistan’s manager, told Cricinfo. He also said that since the end of the Test series, Hameed had left the Pakistan squad, although it is understood that he is still in the UK, with the intention of returning to Pakistan within the next two days.

The allegation is one of a host of additional strands to the News of the World’s coverage of the match-fixing scandal, including the suggestion that the ICC are investigating an unnamed fourth Pakistan player.

Also revealed in an eight-page special produced by the newspaper, they outline the charge sheets against Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir who have been questioned by police twice this week since the initial story broke last weekend with the trio facing 23 charges between them.

And in relation to the Pakistan High Commissioner’s belief that the players were “set up” the News of the World will publish emails, receipts and CCTV evidence that prove the meetings between the undercover reporter and Mazhar Majeed were filmed before the Lord’s Test.

A Scotland Yard spokesman confirmed to Cricinfo that no new arrests have been made in relation to the ongoing case.

Although this article is related to Hameed interview, i found the bold part interesting. Because there was alot of speculation about the video being filmed after the match. Any more new on this?

And BBC is reporting there is fourth person being interviewed in connection with MATCH FIXING.

[sharaabee]

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And yet again u fail to understand the point, you indidiot.

question is not whether indian cricket is corrupt or no. The thing is that india is the source of all the corruption that is going on in international cricket. From hansie cronje to lalit modi and the recent revelation by shane watson and couple of deshi players it is quite obvious that india indeed is the source of problem.

If ICC is really serious abt removing this problem they have to start from india. Banning few players won't solve the problem. They should ban india and leave the example for the rest of countries. No player or no country is bigger than cricket.

hahha wtf.. its like you didnt even read my post..

india is corrupt is not equal to indian cricketers are corrupt... no indian players have been involved in match fixing in the last 10 yrs... the ones that were involved 10 yrs ago were banned.. strict punishments.. that served as a precedence to future cricketers to not get into this bakvaass. pak should do the same.

but no.. you will not get that.. instead go on and on abt how india in general is corrupt hence indian cricketers (who are not corrupt now) should be banned... the subcontinent in general is corrupt.. corruption is rampant in most phases of life.. lets ban all subcontinent.. south africa has a lot of corruption too.. lets ban them.

Betting is not = match fixing. But corrupt indian bookies try to bribe players. They will bribe Pak and BD and AUS etc players anyway even if there is no Indian team.

Lets face it. You are not driven by logic. You are driven by your hatred of India. It's pretty obvious.

[James_Bhaand]

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Whatever evidence ICC has - is false
Looky here what Chota BUTT says… he is all innocent
joo paisay uss nay jama kiyaay thaay woo aik naik maqsad kay liyaay thaay

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[Just_Another_Name]

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Dude, even if ICC bans India from cricket, that will not solve the betting problem, Indian bookies will still be able to fix matches with support from Pakistani players...

Think before you open your mouth and give a suggestion...

Get some sleep !!

And yet again u fail to understand the point, you indidiot.

question is not whether indian cricket is corrupt or no. The thing is that india is the source of all the corruption that is going on in international cricket. From hansie cronje to lalit modi and the recent revelation by shane watson and couple of deshi players it is quite obvious that india indeed is the source of problem.

If ICC is really serious abt removing this problem they have to start from india. Banning few players won't solve the problem. They should ban india and leave the example for the rest of countries. No player or no country is bigger than cricket.

[samb]

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@sharaabee

when did sachin say “no indian player has ever been corrupt”.. please show me where.. if he has then obviously he is being stupid.. cuz azhar jadeja and prabhakar were proven.. (kapil dev was not part of it)..

you are just letting your anti-india mode take over your brain…

@sharaabee

hhunaeh.. i dont know what interview samb is talking abt.. can you pls show me where sachin has said that no indian cricketer EVER has been involved in match fixing? that would be a stupid statment to make if he did..

here you go… verbal diarrhea from the ball tampering little midget.

like I said stfu. and stay that way. don’t need lectures from people who played with matchfixers for years and never said a word himself.

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**Bookies never approached Indian cricketers: Tendulkar **

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/cricketnews/Bookies-never-approached-Indian-cricketers-Tendulkar-/Article1-595698.aspx

**Sachin Tendulkar, in a startling disclosure, said on Thursday that in his 21 years of international career no bookie has ever approached an Indian cricketer. Tendulkar’s statement comes as a big surprise as his second captain Mohammad Azharuddin was banned for life for match-fixing in 2000.

“No, in my 21 years of international cricket, I have never heard of any Indian player being approached by bookies,” said Tendulkar. **

It was perhaps for the first time in all these years, that Tendulkar has spoken on match-fixing and also asked the International Cricket Council (ICC) to thoroughly investigate the ‘spot-fixing’ scandal and punish the Pakistani players if found guilty.

Tendulkar feels the revelations made by the British tabloid The News of the World, if proven true, will bring disrepute to the game that has worked hard to clear itself from the stains of match-fixing scandals in 2000.

“ICC should make a thorough probe in the ‘spot-fixing’ scandal related stories and take appropriate action if the players are found guilty. If the allegations are true, they will certainly bring disrepute to the game,” said Tendulkar.

Tendulkar said he is not an expert to speak on the topic by sitting far away in India, but the incident has certainly disappointed him.

British tabloid News of the World, in a sting operation, revealed that bookie Mazhar Majeed, who was arrested and then released on bail, allegedly paid 150,000 pounds to Pakistani trio of Test skipper Salman Butt and pacers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer for bowling deliberate no balls at predetermined times during last week’s Lord’s cricket Test against England.

[sharaabee]

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Samb.. I'm with you on that one then.. It's a stupid statement to make by Sachin.. Indian cricketers like Azhar and Jadeja were obviously involved in match fixing. I am sure others were approached too.

I dont know if it was bad phrasing on Sachin's part or anything... eitherway.. stupid and inaccurate statement.

All this still doesnt change the fact that guilty Indian players got severe punishments and hence it deterred future players from getting into this nonsense. Pak did not do this back then and thats part of the reason for the mess today. Hope these players are banned now and future Pak cricketers take a lesson from this.

[Captain1]

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@James_Bhaand

Whatever evidence ICC has - is false
Looky here what Chota BUTT says… he is all innocent
joo paisay uss nay jama kiyaay thaay woo aik naik maqsad kay liyaay thaay

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2010-daily/05-09-2010/sports.htm

Idiot had to steal the line from poor kids who sell kangaa/naara in street “behen ka jahaiz, chhotay behen bhai etc”

[hhunaeh]

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here you go... verbal diarrhea from the ball tampering little midget.

like I said stfu. and stay that way. don't need lectures from people who played with matchfixers for years and never said a word himself.

I suppose he should have sipped wine and spoken trash like the intellectual giants across the border, or apologized for other cheats. Complete denial is the only way to answer persistent questioning by the media. Anything else, including "No comments" or "I have heard of this or seen that" from tendulkars mouth would light a wildfire of rumor and suspicion that would be impossible to extinguish. Similar questions have been posed to cricketers the world over. All of them have denied having seeing anything other than the "clean by DNA" cricketers of Australia. Honest speak should be in front of the boards or to investigative agencies and not to the media which has its own axe to grind.

[Captain1]

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@hhunaeh

I suppose he should have sipped wine and spoken trash like the intellectual giants across the border, or apologized for other cheats.

Seems like he doesn’t need to sip wine to speak trash

[hhunaeh]

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Speak trash huh?We are all seeing who is rolling in the gutter right now.

[Iconoclast]

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Now Tendulkar will claim, no Indian player in his 21 year career has ever tampered with the ball on Ws did it.

[Captain1]

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Speak trash huh?We are all seeing who is rolling in the gutter right now.

I guess lying is okay with some people or may be if someone's "god" says anything is acceptable.

[samb]

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I suppose he should have sipped wine and spoken trash like the intellectual giants across the border, or apologized for other cheats. Complete denial is the only way to answer persistent questioning by the media. Anything else, including "No comments" or "I have heard of this or seen that" from tendulkars mouth would light a wildfire of rumor and suspicion that would be impossible to extinguish. Similar questions have been posed to cricketers the world over. All of them have denied having seeing anything other than the "clean by DNA" cricketers of Australia. Honest speak should be in front of the boards or to investigative agencies and not to the media which has its own axe to grind.

seems like Group Captain Tendulkar doesn't need to be drunk to spew utter falsehoods and bakwaas. looks like he can lie through his teeth even when he's sober.

[yamahaguy]

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And yet again u fail to understand the point, you indidiot.

question is not whether indian cricket is corrupt or no. The thing is that india is the source of all the corruption that is going on in international cricket. From hansie cronje to lalit modi and the recent revelation by shane watson and couple of deshi players it is quite obvious that india indeed is the source of problem.

If ICC is really serious abt removing this problem they have to start from india. Banning few players won't solve the problem. They should ban india and leave the example for the rest of countries. No player or no country is bigger than cricket.

Dost ManbearPig, I think you are bent on proving that your skull is filled with Shudh Shakahari Pakistani Gobar.

Bookies have an illegal underground network that spreads across nations, Indian team or BCCI is not the spokesman for Indian bookies. Sattebaazi is banned in India, Police is always looking for these bookies.

These bookies are always looking for bhukkhad beghairat cricketers irrespective of the match and the country they play for, or they play in. Unfortunately, these bookies found 3 bhukkhads in Pakistani team this time.

Match fixing problem can only be fixed, by getting rid of bukhlandas from the team.

But, No, PCB is filled with Makhan Chors who will prove that these 3 bhukkhad bukhlandas are innocent.