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Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
not blowing up 9 planes 4 no reason
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Thank you for your generous comments. I'm sure muslims who would be participating in this thread will be aware of this. No need to rub it in. I'm sure chrsitianity had nothing to do with Hitler's holocaust of 6 millions jews either.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
To sum it up: Fighting in cause of Allah means Enjoining the Good and Forbidding the Evil!
Some reading:
http://muttaqun.com/enjoingood.html
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=54286
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=15038
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
To be more specific I mean an armed struggle i.e. Jihad as in battle.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
The verse of the Holy Quran: 'Strive in the cause of Allah a perfect striving'; comprises all these three types of Jihad.
One, the Jihad against oneself which in Islamic idiom is called the greatest Jihad (Jihad Akbar). Two, the Jihad that is waged against Satan and satanic teachings and designs, and is called the great Jihad (Jihad Kabeer). Three, the Jihad that it waged against the enemy of freedom of conscience; this is called the lesser Jihad (Jihad Asghar). The Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, has described the striving against self as Jihad Akbar. It is mentioned in the hadees that returning from an expedition (Tabuk), the Holy Prophet said:
We are returning from the Jihad Asghar (fighting) to Jihad Akbar (struggle against self). (Kashaf)
He also said:
The mujahid who is exalted above other mujahids is the one who strives against his own self.
For example, haven't you experienced that when you are praying, you may get thoughts that draw your attention away from your namaz? Now, if you try to get rid of those thoughts and concentrate on your namaz, that's a type of fight that you are doing with your own nafs to please Allah. This is just one example, but this type of 'Jehad' is called Jehad-e-Akbar according to Quran and Sunnah.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
We are returning from the Jihad Asghar (fighting) to Jihad Akbar (struggle against self). (Kashaf)
This hadeeth is da'eef (weak). For some reason people who quote it fail to mention that it is da'eef.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Its the responsibility of the state to wage Jihad, for that it should have a reservist army. I think in todays age and time, the reason that we see so many "jihadi" out fits is a sign that the armies of the majority muslim countries some what represent their colonial masters and lack the leadership and the credentials to wage Jihad.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
I still don't see an answer pertinent to what I am asking. Let me further elaborate by some questions. Is every war between a muslim country and non-muslim country a Jihad? What are the factors that make it known that the fight is in the cause of Allah.
For instance before the verses to fight the Quraish of Makkah were revealed, which eventually led to the Battle of Badr (Read Surah Anfal and Tawbah if you are not aware of what I say) we known that the persecution of the muslims was meant for them to abandon the religion of Islam which they had embraced not for economic gains or land expansion or even a conflict which is triggered by bloodshed as in the case where many Arab tribes had already fought each other. So the fight that ensued was clearly for the struggle to hold on the Allahs religion and be free of an oppression to abandon it due to tribal cultures or customs. Does this make my point clearer?
I want examples in our muslim history starting from the Khlifat to present day. Battles which are termed Jihad meaning they are being fought in the cause of Allah. What is the basis for calling it a Jihad?
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
When an enemy attacks your land/country, you fight to defend... that is Jihad
If Muslims are oppressed in their country their struggle against oppressers is jihad, this may or may not be armed struggle.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Jihad can be for any cause- for your exams, fight against poverty, jaahiliyat or anything. Its not only when an enemy attacks :p
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Not Christianity but Christians have, as invading Afghanistan, Iraq and now Lebanon has everything to do with Christians, may be not with Christianity.
Blowing up planes or demolishing twin towers has nothing to do with Muslims because they were allegedly **only a few people responsible for 9/11 attacks. Those **allegedly responsible for London bombings were also a very few guys, BUT
Those who invaded Afghanistan and slaughtered innocent civilians including women and Children, and those who invaded Iraq and butchered innocent Iraqis, and those who back up murderers of Palestinians and Lebanese are no doubt Christian States of USA and UK etc. These states are ruled by Christians, their Armies which are involved in state terrorism consist of Christians, the World media which supports their terrorism is owned by Christians and therefore
you can't deny that the Nation which is responsible for the genocide of Muslims and mass scale terrorism is Christians.
There is no single state or army of Muslims in the world which is involved in Terrorism like Christians, all small groups which are allegedly attacking Western Interests are not representing any Muslim State.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
One, the Jihad against oneself which in Islamic idiom is called the greatest Jihad (Jihad Akbar). Two, the Jihad that is waged against Satan and satanic teachings and designs, and is called the great Jihad (Jihad Kabeer). Three, the Jihad that it waged against the enemy of freedom of conscience; this is called the lesser Jihad (Jihad Asghar). The Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, has described the striving against self as Jihad Akbar. It is mentioned in the hadees that returning from an expedition (Tabuk), the Holy Prophet said:
We are returning from the Jihad Asghar (fighting) to Jihad Akbar (struggle against self). (Kashaf)
He also said:
The mujahid who is exalted above other mujahids is the one who strives against his own self.
For example, haven't you experienced that when you are praying, you may get thoughts that draw your attention away from your namaz? Now, if you try to get rid of those thoughts and concentrate on your namaz, that's a type of fight that you are doing with your own nafs to please Allah. This is just one example, but this type of 'Jehad' is called Jehad-e-Akbar according to Quran and Sunnah.
The above lies are the rumours of Coward Sufis whose only aim is to corrupt Islam by mixing satanic teachings with the deen of Allah.
Because of these losers, Muslims are being kicked out by Kuffar throughout the world.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Yes, but these jahil sufis are rejectors of Quran, they don't accept what Quran says, they accept all fabricated and weak narrations which make their smelly lives more comfortable and luxurious.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
When all so called Muslim states are engaged in licking American boots then who else would do Jihad?
These coward Sufis, who are the Enemies of Islam?
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Peer falaana temkana to the rescue! 
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
I can agree with the fact of waging a Jihad when an enemy attacks a muslim land however when an enemy attacks a muslim land where Islamic law does not prevail however the majority population may still be muslim then who takes the reigns of Jihad?
And do you consider the injunctions in Surah Tawbah to be circumstantial or general? So can we attack a non-muslim land for the sake of establishing the Law of Allah?
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
For example Ghazwah Tabuk and Hunain?
Or for example the Conquest of Makkah?
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
The original and principal aim of Muslims is to establish the deen of Allah (Islam) in this world because this world is **owned **and **created **by Allah (God) and everything in this world including humans are created and owned by Allah, so this world and its inhabitants must obey and surrender to Allah. This means that all people in this world have to obey the teachings of Quran. This is like all people in the US or UK have to obey state laws in these lands, otherwise they would be punished or giving penalty to go against the law e.g if someone rapes a girl in UK, one is punished by the state law or if one parks one's car in no parking zone, one has to give penalty for that.
Allah has sent His message (Quran) to humans, whites, blacks, browns all of them from all corners of this world. Those who accept this message are expected to establish supremacy of Allah in this world, so the very first step they do is what was done by their Prophet Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam i.e founding an Islamic State. After the Islamic State is established and fortified, the next step is to convey the message of Allah (Quran) to people next to the Islamic State, if people accept this message and enter Islam then it means Islam spreads easily without any use of force but if the people next to the Islamic State refuse to accept Islam, the Muslim Army (Mujahideen) suggest them to surrender in their favour and accept Islam as the ruling law upon them, in case if they surrender to the Muslim Army, their land is merged with the original Islamic State and they are given peace and security by the Muslim Ruler against a small amount of tax which is called Jizyah. The Non Muslims are allowed to pracitse their religion and go to their places of worship without any fear and enjoy all fundamental rights which Muslims have. Jizyah in fact is less than the tax which Muslims pay which is called Zakaat.
But if the people next to the Islamic State (Non Muslims) (1) refuse to accept Islam and (2) refuse to surrender then the Muslim Army fights with them untill they get defeated and so the situation appears as I stated above.
I will give more details about it later, inshaAllah.
Re: What does fighting in the cause of Allah mean?
Allah has sent His message (Quran) to humans, whites, blacks, browns all of them from all corners of this world. Those who accept this message are expected to establish supremacy of Allah in this world, so the very first step they do is what was done by their Prophet Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam i.e founding an Islamic State. After the Islamic State is established and fortified, the next step is to convey the message of Allah (Quran) to people next to the Islamic State, if people accept this message and enter Islam then it means Islam spreads easily without any use of force but if the people next to the Islamic State refuse to accept Islam, the Muslim Army (Mujahideen) suggest them to surrender in their favour and accept Islam as the ruling law upon them, in case if they surrender to the Muslim Army, their land is merged with the original Islamic State and they are given peace and security by the Muslim Ruler against a small amount of tax which is called Jizyah. The Non Muslims are allowed to pracitse their religion and go to their places of worship without any fear and enjoy all fundamental rights which Muslims have. Jizyah in fact is less than the tax which Muslims pay which is called Zakaat.
But if the people next to the Islamic State (Non Muslims) (1) refuse to accept Islam and (2) refuse to surrender then the Muslim Army fights with them untill they get defeated and so the situation appears as I stated above.
I will give more details about it later, inshaAllah.
Bro just one question ...so it means that quran states that to fight and kill people who doesnt accept islam?? please correct me if i am wrong.