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^ Do you like your non-alcohol daquiri shaken or stirred?
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Maybe to you it might not seem weird, or might not even be the same environment. I've been to business meetings or customer facing meetings some of which I have had to arrange for customer unit CEO's where the check comes to around $2-3k for a dinner of 3-4 people. What costs more than the food itself is drinks. And it is customary to have a toast to the beginning of the deal, it just seems weird to do it with water or soft drink etc...
Even in those types of environments, if people know that you don't drink for religious reasons, then they don't mind. They actually respect it. You're perceiving it to be more weird than they would.
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I don't drink and I have no right to force my views on others. If they wish to drink and they chose the place I simply decide if my values are so stringent I can't share in the joy of a friend or not.
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I try my best 100% to avoid places such as pubs and even clubs. Exceptions were when i really had to hang out at pub with my work colleagues for being social. Other than that..i stay away as much as i can from places where excessive drinking is taken place.
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So using personal examples:
Going out for "drinks" after work means getting together with colleagues. They may drink beer, wine or something alcoholic and I stick to diet coke or will ask for ask them it they make a daquiri or margariti or pina colada without alcohol. The restaurant people are happy to oblige and not once have my colleagues mocked me.
Holiday work party at a relatives home - execs and senior corporate staff were invited to a catered event and the drink menu was strictly mocktails, sodas and juices. No one was weirded out by an absence of alcohol. In fact, the caterer LOVED making the mocktails and said he was going to add it to his menu since other clients (and we're talking about gora clients) would apreciate having non-alcoholic options.
Invited to a super-upscale wine restaurant whose menu specifically pairs bottles of wine valued at 100s of dollars with each course of the meal. The host was a wine afficionado. Declined drinks and again, not a big deal. We each have choices to make and declining drinks isn't something most others will judge you on.
Yes, like mentioned earlier, It is different from people to people and from situation to situation.
BTW, a daiquiri is awesome, I can't have enough of those :D
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^ Do you like your non-alcohol daquiri shaken or stirred?
Shaken of course :D
Yes, like mentioned earlier, It is different from people to people and from situation to situation. BTW, a daiquiri is awesome, I can't have enough of those :D
I used to stick to diet cokes until I discovered daquiris - yummy!
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Panorama (in Toronto) has the best virgin pina coladas. I absolutely love those! =)
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So I went into red lobster today cz I was craving their biscuits (don’t judge 
) and I had ot order at the takeout section, which was at hte bar. man oh man, some of the ppl sitting there were just so…ewwwwwww.
I sound so judgy now, I know 
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What does that have to do with this topic?
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The peoples drinking man keep up
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italian places actually have quite a bit of non-meat/sea food dishes. baked ziti, eggplant parm, etc etc..yum i woulda gone
plus maybe he was inviting american/non-brown frnds and so maybe they dont eat brown/halal only food?
is this a special male frnd? who should pay special attention to ur preferences? lol
-as for the general question...if its a bar/club..then it depends who invites (if its really close frnds then sure i'll go cuz they know i dont drink/wont grind) so we're just hanging out as usual...if its a new random group then i wouldnt go.
-restaurants are ok...eat somethign before u go..order an appetizer...plus like ppl said there's plenty of veg/seafood options.
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Depends on the relationship with the friend whose inviting you. if you guys are close, she will understand your issues so she should probably bring this issue to light regarding the drinking and non halal food.
If you arent close, just go and avoid drinking. have fries or something and come back early.
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I'd refuse. Why put yourself in an environment like that?
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To the religious folks - If you are invited to a party/girl's night or something of that sort where you know there will be drinking, probably no halal food, do you go? How do you turn down the invitations, if you don't go? Be upfront or just make up an excuse like you have plans?
Sounds like you're uncomfortable and want a graceful way to bow out without hurting/offending anyone. If you're not comfortable, don't go. Just be upfront that are not comfortable at that venue but would love to catch up at lunch next week and pick a restaurant that you like.
I don't drink and I have no right to force my views on others. If they wish to drink and they chose the place I simply decide if my values are so stringent I can't share in the joy of a friend or not.
I really appreciate that! :) I hate when I have planned birthday parties and such for hubby or another friend in the past, and there are always those friends who impose their views if whether or not a certain restaurant is appropriate for Muslims even after everything has already been planned. Keep in mind we are halalies too! I don't understand why some have to ruin it for others. if your not comfortable, make an excuse and don't come. It irks me when people start to preach.
I agree with the general sense here, don't be afraid to decline drinks respectively around others but if it still makes you that uncomfortable to even go then politely decline and just explain your reasoning in simple sentences. I agree going to much into religion in the work place is not comfortable for me either but many many people now a days don't drink for numerous reasons and most are understanding if their not made to feel uncomfortable for them drinking. It's very normal to not drink for them too. :)