^ The book was brought up because of the topic.Im sure you noticed that I quoted something about greetings from it .Theres nothing about cavemen when it comes to that book.I suppose you would have to know how to understand it - when it comes to "Heavenly Ornaments." You cant take everything for its literal meaning.But then Im sure you're aware of that.
Literal meaning? You mean like quoting a book from a different time, different language and different culture to address Canadians in Arabic in 2004?
^ Would it be too much to ask if you kindly went back and read the entire thread? I never said I or that the book was 100% right.I was merely interested to know if there was an Arabic greeting for non Muslims. I didnt ask this question,because I plan to go and greet every non Muslim in Arabic
I had read/heard that there was in fact a greeting in Arabic which was directed towards non Muslims.Thats all.I wanted to know what it was.
Muslim queen alhamdulilah you are looking for the correct way to greet non muslims.
And it is good you looking for the Islamic hukm on such matters.
The non muslim extremist who making silly comments have mindset which has no link to islam and they view everythign in there own view only, they making comments like islam is squiggly lines and centuries old just tells you what kind of childish people they really are.
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Literal meaning? You mean like quoting a book from a different time, different language and different culture to address Canadians in Arabic in 2004?
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For us muslims, the faith tell us that our Religion is Universal both with respect to **time* and place.
Can you please ask your friends about the actuall text and the refference of the hadith. I’ve heared tthis hadith, in different version and the context was totally different as well.
The problem is our way of greeting is the best in the word. So why leave it to adopt what the others do, untill unless we asked to do so By Allah [swt] or Muhammad [s]
Suppose if they feel offended, then waht?
Stupid Idiot, are you an Arab? if not why do you have to great people in Arabic? If arabic greating means “God bless you” then what is wrong with greeting non-muslims with “God bless you”? why would God forbid Muslims to greet non-muslim this way.. that is very prejudice on God’s part. God’s discriminatory attitude is unacceptable. If it is not from Quran and only in Hadith, then people who wrote this kind of nonsensical books must be mad and meant only to spread hatred and therefore should be ignored by todays inteligent and reasonable people.
Here are the references»:
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=436
My understanding is that the muslims are allowed to greet non-muslims only if muslims need something from a non-muslims otherwise they are forbidden from either greeting or acknowledging a greeting from a non-muslim.
Again, all the three muslims (one Bangladeshi, one Pakistani and one Indian) that work for me are not bothered by this injunction.
there is a joke about muslim greeting by muslim comedian
With his bushy black beard and skullcap, Azhar Usman strides on to the stage with a raucous “Assalam Aleikum.”
“For those who don’t know what that means, I’ll explain it to you,” he declares. “It means: ‘I’m gonna kill you.’” The audience bursts into laughter.
^, wow rvikz that is flippin hilarious. never heard anything half as funny. please, post more examples of such comedic brilliance.
may be gupistan should hire rvikz as offical joker with no sense.
Way off topic.But honestly Azhar Usman is hilarious. You guys should hear him imitate the desi aunti saying "Assalamu Alaikum".
More like 'asalayeinkummmm'.But the way he says it is just so funny.
MQ, this is what the Qur'an says:
"When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things." Qur'an
This should be enough to let muslims get an idea of what to say, Insha'Allah, whether being greeted, or giving a greeting. smile
Munni thanks a bunch for the information.I think we can safely say we have covered everything for my post now.I knew that I just was interested to know what phrase it was in Arabic- yes there actually is an Arabic greeting for non Muslims.But I found that too.Thanks again yaara.
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MQ, this is what the Qur'an says:
"When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things." Qur'an
This should be enough to let muslims get an idea of what to say, Insha'Allah, whether being greeted, or giving a greeting. smile
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According to the context, this ayah is addressing the issue of exchange of greetings among muslims.
No, I’m not.
The meaning which this greeting contains has no replacement.
Suppose I’m not english will then I greet people with ‘Assalam o Alikum’. The logic which you give here is only for the english people. How then I meet the Germans, Russians, Thais and so on and so forth. Besids it doesnt mean ‘god bless you’
Why did Allah made us humans and not animals? Why the earth has a spherical shape? Why the sky is blue and not white? Why the clouds are white? For what ever reason, IF Allah [swt] or his messenger has asked us not to say salam to non muslims, I’m a follower so I follow what I was told by Quran and Sunnah.
Allah[swt] alone is to be worshiped. Why majority of the man kind is being prjudice, disrespectful towards their creator?
In England you say on the right of the road, in some countries it is otherwise. You follow what they tell you to do. Why? Just because you are in their land. Likewise, if Allah[swt] has set some rules and rememeber I use the word if. Then that is best for us. You see Allah [swt] is our creator he can be discriminatory, What he tells is best for us.
Quran asks us to perfom the ‘salat’ [pryers]. How to do it is told in the Sunnah [hadith]. I think you are not muslims. Please dont call those mad who wrote the other books, show some respect. I never said anything about your religion or book.
They did not meant to spread hatred, it is your mere perception. There was a time when non muslim used to fight in the Muslim army. This religion is very beautiful and loving. You ahve less understanding that is why you say that. Besides that our intelligence can never match that of Allah [swt] and his Messenger [s], simple as that.
Aslaam-Alaikum is a Universal greeting.
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Only permitted between muslims unless a muslim needs something from a non-muslims (according to alims). I have already provided the references for proof.
OK brother but what if non-muslims says to a Muslim "Aslaam-alaikum", then what should a Muslim reply back with. "Wa-Alaikum-Aslaam" or "Hello"?
This happens to me at my work place regularly as friendly gesture.
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OK brother but what if non-muslims says to a Muslim "Aslaam-alaikum", then what should a Muslim reply back with. "Wa-Alaikum-Aslaam" or "Hello"?
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According to hadeeth, the reply is one word: "Wa'laikum"
Arvind: You are absolutely wrong.