What are some of the easiest languages to learn for those who know Urdu?

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that’s what I was trying to understand, uncle ji :snooty:

you said:

“you will find** Arabi, Farsi word usage by the so called shudh-Hindi speakers and vice versa **is also true.”

When I read this, to me it means, arabi, farsi words are used in “shudh-Hindi” and “vice versa” tells me “shudh-Hindi” words are used in Arabi, Farsi :naraz:

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He was talking about Hindi and Urdu in his original post. Someone lacks reading comprehension skills...

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What is Hangul ?

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may be meaning of “vice versa” and its usage is important to know. “Vice Versa” referes to two conditions compared equally in one sentence. It is unfair to use it for a previous paragraph:snooty:

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LP, how do you know Hindi ?

Are you from India ?

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The Korean script.

It was appropriate to use vice versa. He was obviously talking about how Hindi borrows words from Urdu, which are of Arabic and Farsi origin and in the same fashion Urdu borrows words from Hindi (Which are of Sanskrit origin).

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Incorrect rather than unfair, even though the intended meaning could be figured out from the previous conversation.

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Yes Sanskrit which has proper roots in Hindi (Apart from HIndustani language) it is differernt from urdu so you can’t learn it easily. Script is different dialect is different. Phrases are different.

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Hindi is the most easiest language. I can say it bcuz I can read and write it (I learnt it very easily) :)

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Thank you for proving my point. Now McPendo, have you learned Farsi? Someone who has learned to read and write Farsi please step forward and tell us how "easy" it was for you. LOL

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Yes I've learned Farsi and it was fairly easy to Read and write because i already knew the Urdu Script. That's how i read the Mathnavi.

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since Lucknow is my home and my Dad was an avid Urdu poet, it was easier for me as i had the luxury of having a vast pool of Faarsii and Arabii vocabulary. i studied Faarsii ONLY in grade 10 and i scored the highest mark. i LOVED Faarsii. unfortunately, i couldn't continue with Faarsii at university level.

anyone who knows Urdu, Farsii is much easier for him/her...Having the working knowledge of Faarsii makes Urdu shaa'irii a cinch/breeze! :)

f*rom vocabulary point of view, you can't tell the difference from the following she'r whether it is an Urdu she'r or a Faarsii she'r:*
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hazaar jaama_daarii, sad_hazaar baKhiya_garii
tamaam shorish o tamkiiN nisaar-e-be_Khabarii**

Can you tell?

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Is that asghar Gondvi's shair? Then it has to be urdu.

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^ Asghar Gondvi-Kia yaad kara diya?

*Na main deewana asghar na mujhay shouq e uryani
Koi khenchay liye jata hay meray jeeb o gareeban ko

*

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following 24 words which are pure Turkish (they are neither borrowed nor loaned from Persian, Arabic or English).

  1. Urdu (which means ‘camp’ or ‘army’ in Turkish but is hardly ever used in this sense in the Urdu language).

  2. Begum (means ‘lady’ in Turkish and is used in the same sense in Urdu. In addition it is also used for ‘wife’).

  3. Baji (‘elder sister’ in Turkish and used in the same way as in Urdu).

  4. Yaldram (‘thunder’, used seldom in spoken Urdu).

  5. Jauq (means ‘group of people’. Mostly used in the Urdu phrase Jauq-dar-jooq, seldom used alone).

  6. Ghool (a ‘group or pack of birds’, used in the same meaning as in Urdu).

  7. Yalghar (‘attack’, used as in Urdu).

  8. Yurish (‘attack’, also used as in Urdu).

  9. Qadghan (meaning ‘ban’ in Turkish and used as in Urdu).

  10. Quli (a career ‘labourer’, used as in Urdu).

  11. Qanchi (a pair of ‘scissors’, used as in Urdu).

  12. Qanat (‘partition of a tent’, used as in Urdu).

  13. Ailchi (‘messenger’, used as in Urdu).

  14. Ataleeq (‘teacher’, used as in Urdu).

  15. Anna (‘nurse/maid’, used as in Urdu).

  16. Tamgha (‘medal’, used as in Urdu).

  17. Chaqmaq (‘flintstone’, used as in Urdu).

  18. Tuzak (‘administration, memoirs’, etc., seldom used in this sense in Urdu but often used with another word Ahtesham as Tuzuk-o-Ahtesham means ‘glory and writ of a king’).

  19. Qurq (‘judicial attachment’, used as in Urdu).

  20. Kaash (a ‘slice or piece of orange’, used as in Urdu).

  21. Chugha (‘cloak’, used as in Urdu).

  22. Yaghi (‘rebellious’, which is used in Urdu with a slight change—baghi).

  23. Chi (used with addition of a quality in Urdu with some words like bawarchi [cook], toapchi [cannon bearer], etc.).

  24. Tughra (writing of any words in an artistic and complex manner used as in Urdu).

In addition to these words, there are some famous titles used in Urdu. Most of them as surnames or names such as Khan, Khaqan, Altumash, Qizilbash, Tughral, Baid, Chughtai, Mughal, Pasha, Turk, Aaqa and Arsalan that are also of Turkish origin.

:chai:

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ankhon ki zaban :chai:

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no, it's NOT AsGhar GonDvii's she'r...it's actually Hafiz Shirazi's she'r...the matl'a of his Ghazal. i'm including the matl'a, the maqt'a and one she'r of this Ghazal:
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hazaar jaama_darii, sad_hazaar baKhiya_garii
tamaam shorish o tamkiiN nisaar-e-be-Khabarii

ba_gosh-e-hosh shinao pind-e-Haafiz-e-Shiraaz
cheh nukta iist ba_tarz-e-tarannum-e-shukarii

chuuN har Khabar k shuneedam reh-e-ba_Hairat-e-daasht
aziiN sipash man o saaqii wa waz'a be_Khabarii**

AsGhar GonDvii did 'tazmeen' of this musalsal Ghazal and here is the matl'a of that Ghazal...it's one of my all-time favourite:
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sukoon-e-shorish-e-pinhaaN hai shoGhl-e-jaama_darii
qaraar-e-seena-e-sozaaN hai naala-e-saHarii**


he is one of my most favourite sho'araa...great poet indeed!
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"AsGhar", nashaat-e-rooH kaa ik khil gayaa chaman
jumbish huii jo Khaama-e-rangiiN_nigaar ko

AsGhar had several students...among them were Jigar Muradabadi, My Dad and his friend Tufail Ahmad "Shamimi". **his reflections can be found in all of his students.

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If you can read/write punjabi, you already know half of hindi. They are almost similar.

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Goo goo ga ga

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Bhai rajkumari Kaa kehna hair ki baa upyog Karein. Paranthu aapney Aa ko Kha liya nateeja - baalika Ki naaam ka aapnay khichdi kar diya