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very sad to hear that u include people like auranzaib, nadir shah and muhammad b qasim with the ranks of sahaba and tabaeen.You need to take a closer look at how the pious caliphate became a kingship and all the badness that started with it.
To be honest it makes me think that in reality u are some islamophobe trying to malign our pious forefathers
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I only compared them in regards to the topic of slavery, nothing more. If you want to make a point please be specific, its hard to understand what you are talking about when you make generalizations.
Also, please try to keep this civil and avoid name calling.
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like I said slavery in times of Prophet was very different from the exploitative instituion that was perpetuated by the various dynasties in the name of islam.
your approach is "end justifies the means" that is not the islamic way of thinking.
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I disagree and would like to know why you think it was different. Please be as specific as you can be in this regard. Its easy to make a generalization, whats harder is to back it up.
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as most of the wars after pious caliphate were not legal religious wars.Waging religious war is a big responsibility how can the fasiq and fajir rulers who dont enforce islam in their own lands justify their fighting with the nonmuslims in the name of islam? first duty is to enforce rigorous shariah in ur own lands
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This is beyond ridiculous. How can one argue that every muslim ruler after the rightfully guided caliphs did not practice Islam. The only reason the first four caliphs are respected is because after these four, there is a division of opinion amongst the muslims as to what was the right course and the wrong course. Brother, I don't wish to judge your character, but using such vile terms to describe the muslim rulers of past is nothing short of inflammatory. I advise you to use gentler words of criticism if you have a bone to pick, and again, please be specific. You say these rulers did not enforce Islam amongst their own? Can you cite examples of such and such, not simple generalizing, as painting with such a large brush does not produce anything of value.
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no doubt but that will not be the ultimate solution.Owning slaves can also be a big boon for prostitution as for e.g I have enuf money to buy 20 slaves I can then 'rent" them to other clients and make huge profits
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This is illegal, anyone who has studied Islam can tell you this much. The only person who has sexual rights over a slave's body is the master, or the slaves husband if they are not seperated. This can never occur. The holy Koran clearly says that the master shouldn't force a slave into prostitution if she desires chastity.
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what makes u think there is no middle ground? some basic human values in all revolutions whether communist , fascist or religious are the same.....just because u oppose tyrants aristocrats dosent make u a french revolutionary.And by the same logic the french kingship shud have ideals compatible with islam as they were opposed to the revolutionaries and owned slaves.
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Again, if you believe there exists a middle ground between an Islamic state and one envisioned during the French revolution, or if a syncretic state can be produced that doesn't dilute both, or some other solution, please write about it. Be specific, right now you are making general statements. If what you have to say is amenable to my mind than you will have changed my mind. However, currently, what you are saying is akin to saying capitalism and communism can both be ideals that can form a contradiction-free state. In my mind this is an impossibility.
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first bring back people of the character of those who lived around the times of prophet otherwise all such experiments will cause more problems then it will solve.
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That is the aim of my writing. I tried to shock the muslims out of their comfort zone. I'm trying to make them realize that Islam is a complete way of life, seperate from the vision of the French revolution.
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slavery is not a 'islamic " practice its a social practice allowed under islam.
Offcourse we shud NOT accept dictation by other powers but reintroducing slavery in this day and age is not in our own best interest.We need to do a lot of self-improvement before we can get to this stage.But I agree in theory I am not against slavery.
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Slavery is an institution in Islam, and an Islamic practice. I'm not ashamed of my beliefs unlike many of the modern apologists. To argue other wise is preposterous. Again, do you concede the point that slavery was practiced by muslims since the time of prophet Muhammed(pbuh) up until the mid-1900's, and was only stopped because of the interference of Westerners?