Were The Jews Without A State Before The "Creation" Of Israel?

Were the Jews without a state before the “creation” of Israel?

By Sadhique AMI

The Jewish Diaspora was offered the first Jewish State in the world in trouble free Russian Far east by the Soviet government - twenty years before the “creation” of Israel - in 1928. Jews from all over the Soviet Union, and from Argentina, Lithuania, France, Latvia, Germany, Belgium, the USA, Poland even from Palestine (Jews who had become disillusioned with the Zionist experience ) arrived there in droves. The Soviet government offered free railroad passage, free food along the way, and 600 Rubles to each settler,- a princely sum at that time. The Jewish area was made an Autonomous Region in 1934 and now it is an autonomous republic, federal status on par with Chechnya.

The republic borders China and is of 36,000 square km in area - more than one and a half times bigger than Israel (i.e. the Zionist occupied Palestine). It’s capital is Birobidzhan and the republic is well advanced in technology with abundant natural resources.

How did the Jewish Autonomous Republic (JAR) came into being?

Establishment of the Jewish Autonomous Region was a necessity for more than two million Jews, living in the Soviet Union. They continued to remain one of the most suffering people of the country. In 1921, the Committee on land settlement of the working Jews (KOMZET), which was headed by P.G.Smidovich, searched for places for the Jews. The first attempts of KOMZET were to create Jewish settlements in Crimea, in the Ukraine. It didn’t meet with success and then the southern region of Priamurye, called then Birsko-Bidzhanskiy region, was recognised as a favourable territory, for the compact moving of the working Jews. This was after an investigation by the expedition led by Professor B.L.Bruk, under a management of V.R.Viliams in 1927.

History of the JAR establishment, as the first and only state territorial unit of the Jews not only in the USSR, but also in the world (Israel was established on a resolution of the UN in 1948), begins from the fact that the Presidium of the General Executive Committee of the USSR passed the decree “On the attaching for KOMZET of free grounds near the Amur River in the Far East for settlement of the working Jews” on March 28, 1928. The decree meant that there was “a possibility of establishment of a Jewish administrative territorial unit on the territory of the called region”. The majority of settlers were not familiar with agriculture. Russian population rendered them all possible support. Many villages and collective farms sent instructors, who trained settlers to agricultural labour. In total since 1928 up to 1933 22,3 thousand persons arrived on the territory of today’s region.

“This is why we need to have a rabbi in this city,” says Oleg. “Why don’t we have one here, in the capital of the [Jewish Autonomous Republic? Because the Jews themselves don’t want it. No one wants to invest any money in this city, because they don’t want two homelands. Jews in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kiev all receive money. But the only money we get is to help the Jews who are here to leave(for Israel)”.

In Birobidzhan, the one organization that does not lack for money is the Sokhnut office. Funded by private donations, Sokhnut is a Jewish agency with offices worldwide that provide assistance, including financial, to Jews emigrating to Israel.

The Muslim Weekly

I thought I just let everyone know about this fact.

The state of israel was created for one reason and one reason only to be a pain in the butt for the Muslims.

It was created by the power at the time Great Britian and it is being currently supported by the amerikkans.

If Jewish going by there religion then even there own religion states they can't live there, that the Jews will have to be lead into the palestine by there messiah this what there orthodox jews say.

today the zionists stealing land building huge wall with watchtowers and machine guns pointing at civillian villages. If they really wanted a state why did'nt they go live in Texas, USA massive land bigger than france they can build the wall to keep put the local american terrorists, and they can have all weapons they want.

But no this is no what happened instead they are a thorn in the middle of muslim lands so we have to deal with them in one way or another.

http://www.rbooker.com/roots/articles/mideast_pal.htm

Middle East Myths
“The Myth of Palestine”

Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda and Information, said that a big lie that is told often enough and long enough will eventually be accepted as truth. With cooperation from the world’s media, coupled with ignorance, apathy, and anti-Semitism among the nations, Israel is being presented as a giant Goliath killing little Davids who are only armed with stones. There would be peace in the Middle East if only Goliath Israel would agree to little David’s demand for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. This is one of the many lies constantly repeated to the uninformed West. The purpose of this presentation is to expose some of the myths (read that big lies) regarding the Arab-Israeli conflict.

^ i think you should read again and not try to divert the topic

The first article says something about "Zionist occupied Palestine", so any article that contends that "Palestine" as a state never existed is well on the point.

The Romans defeated the Jews and smashed the first temple and renamed the land Palestine. Palestinians are Arabs from the surrounding countries but since 1967 for political reasons there has been a call for a Palestinian homeland which has allowed Arab leaders to take their peoples anger that would be directed toward their dictatorships and turn it towards Israel, a brilliant move that has worked.

^ israels existence is enough for anyone to be angry in that region we don't need corrupt idiotic dictators to tell us how to feel and react towards the zionist entity!

If tha's your attitude then expect to keep feeling this anger for a long time. No one will negotiate with people who say that their existence is not valid. Hitler tried it, almost succeeded but end up eating his gun.

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^ israels existence is enough for anyone to be angry in that region we don't need corrupt idiotic dictators to tell us how to feel and react towards the zionist entity!
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They have used the 'Israel tool" well haven't they. After all refuge camps have now existed for over 50 years even after billions of dollars in Aid, why is that? The use of Palestinians as politcal pawns to keep the fire and anger of the Muslim world at Israel rather than at home has worked out nicely for these dictatorships.

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But no this is no what happened instead they are a thorn in the middle of muslim lands so we have to deal with them in one way or another.
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No land belongs to one community or the other. It is amazing that you reject the division of land based on nationalities but support doing that on religious basis. If you are so irked by the itsy bitsy Israel, did you ever stop to think how the 'muslim land' came into existence. Did they not overrun the natives. So if conquerors are keepers, then why worry when the british who owned most of that region decided to give some to the jews. Atleast Israel has given back the Sinai peninsula and is not going to keep Gaza and the West Bank, when they could have it all.

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No land belongs to one community or the other. It is amazing that you reject the division of land based on nationalities but support doing that on religious basis. If you are so irked by the itsy bitsy Israel, did you ever stop to think how the 'muslim land' came into existence. Did they not overrun the natives. So if conquerors are keepers, then why worry when the british who owned most of that region decided to give some to the jews. Atleast Israel has given back the Sinai peninsula and is not going to keep Gaza and the West Bank, when they could have it all.
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Its amazing when you have your facts in the wrong place. The land is not divided on religous basis at all. As for nationalism i do not have one second for the racist thoughts behind nationalism. The jews and muslims lived fine before the british mandate and division.

When muslims have gone to other lands they culture the people and implement the islamic ideology the people are not raped and pillaged if that is the case then your beloved india would not have almost 1 billion hindus left would it maybe you shoud stop and think about that!

Oh the israelis have given back the sinai that is nice of them there so kind are'nt they giving back a desert, anything else that does'nt belong to them they should give back aswell.

Israel can have it all right now you are right on that one point. But another factor you have missed is how long for can they have it all after all its only a matter of time before what is wrong is put right!

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When muslims have gone to other lands they culture the people and implement the islamic ideology the people are not raped and pillaged if that is the case then your beloved india would not have almost 1 billion hindus left would it maybe you shoud stop and think about that!

Oh the israelis have given back the sinai that is nice of them there so kind are'nt they giving back a desert, anything else that does'nt belong to them they should give back aswell.

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There are hindus in India because unlike arabia, India did not consist of bedouin tribes but had their own civilization. So defeating the kings and ruling the country did not automatically mean getting the grip of the civilization. Regarding muslims culturing the people, that is a good way of keeping yourself pepped up.

If Israel giving back the Sinai isn't a big deal because its just a desert, why get so upset if they keep a desert half that size.

AK, it is a wrong interpretation that Islam spared Hindus. The fact is that Islam could get expansion only in dark, uncivilized areas, after Arab societies to central Asia and in Africa. In India it faced a halt. In Spain, in a more advanced country Islam was totally out rooted.
The fact is that the civilized world has always rejected the notions of Islam.

For British tactics for an Israel, I think you are right. The British knew that only Jews could stand the Arabs in a nice way, and would not take double standard for religious hotchpotch.

Actually in the first 5 centuries of sustained Islamic venture in the Indian subcontinents, the invaders killed around 80 million Hindus which was a significant chunk of the population at that time. They just couldn't kill all because there were too many to kill. The sustained killing was reduced only after the Mughals came in and put in the jizya.

so the defeat at the hands of the Romans was how long ago?

And who lived in these lands before israel? acres upon acres of unoccupied farmland i would suppose :hehe:

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Actually in the first 5 centuries of sustained Islamic venture in the Indian subcontinents, the invaders killed around **80 million Hindus
* which was a significant chunk of the population at that time. They just couldn't kill all because there were too many to kill. The sustained killing was reduced only after the Mughals came in and put in the jizya.
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source of statistics?

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*Originally posted by anjjan: *
The fact is that Islam could get expansion only in dark, uncivilized areas, after Arab societies to central Asia and in Africa. In India it faced a halt. In Spain, in a more advanced country Islam was totally out rooted. The fact is that the civilized world has always rejected the notions of Islam.

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Not that I want to correct the perception of my Hindu Indian neighbors about Islam and how it spread and who accepted Islam under what condition. I am surprised at how you used the term "dark" "uncivilised" as mere recipiants of this religion, known as Islam. Further, you tell us another fact that Spain in the early 7th century Visigoth kingdom was an "advanced Country". Yet, all this with the topping of "Civilized world always rejected Islam", would you mind telling us what civilized world/ at what time are we talking about?

UTD I agree with your description, thats why I say the concept of nation state is very alien (even today) in the arab world especially in the masses, so its going to collapse one day.

Well even one whole mountain range is dedicated in the celebration of Hindu Massacre- Hindu Kush

you could make your reference more useful by quoting the sources of your author, for example a survey or a scientific study, instead of citing an out of print book that could very possibly be trash.