Wedding dress etiquette

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he should speak directly with her and say that he's doing so because he wants to involve her in all the decisions that they make about their life....and this is a very critical decision because he has a pre-set budget that he is trying to follow.

he can gently ask her to coax the SIL and MIL out of this situation and say that their financial responsibility and decision-making process should remain between them only as that is what he is comfortable with.

see what she says then......

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Thanks for the replies guys!

Yeah my friend gave $1700 to be exact and she spent an additional $600 on top of that. The thing is when the girl's sister first called my friend's mom, he did have a talk with the girl and expressed his disappointment. He told her that he wasn't happy with this behavior because when he had given her the money, he had specifically asked her to stay within budget. He just recently bought a house and is going to take her furniture shopping so she can set up the house the way she wants so he didn't want her spending too much on a wedding dress due to all these other expenses. Further, he is also upset that she did not even consult him first to see if he would be ok with pitching in more money. She just assumed he would pay the $600 and ordered the dress without letting him know.

When he had the talk, she didn't say anything and kept quiet so we figured the issue was resolved and they'll come up with the money on their own. However, a week later, the girl brought up the dress issue again. My friend ignored it but then the girl's mom called from Pakistan two days ago asking for the money! I am just so appalled at this behavior and I just wanted to know if I was right in feeling like this. My friend has arranged for the money to be sent to her mom but he is just so turned off by everything.

Should he have a talk with the dad?! Because talking to the girl didn't help!

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^ Why talk to the dad? Your friend isn't marrying the dad is he?

He told her he was upset....her side STILL asked for the money and got it. So this definately set a precedent for the future. What's going to stop the girl from spending over the budget in the future? At the end, she got her way. Spoiled girls who act like brats do this because there is no reason for them to stop. Despite the "lectures"....at the end they "win".

Good luck to your friend! I highly suggest you tell him to go with her when she goes furniture shopping! And for his sake, I truly hope this behavior doesn't continue after marriage.

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^ Honestly, some might call me petty - but I would even out the money elsewhere. Let's say he was going to spend X dollars on something else for her. Now he should spend X - $600 on it AND he should tell her what he had to do. Tell her he has a set budget and he needs to spend within those parameters. She needs to respect financial constraints and if she is immature and selfish about it and fails to understand, that has to be discussed now. She can't spend what she likes and just expect someone else to make up the shortfall. This is what I called having a sense of entitlement and not respecting that real life has monetary and personal constraints that you have to respect.

It might be a harsh lesson for her and HER family, but best to know that now.

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totally agree with Sehrysh.......start as you mean to go on.

the thing that I don't understand is that when the bride brought the expense to the groom's attention for the second time, why did he ignore it? did he hope the matter would simply resolve itself?
he needs to rise to the challenge and learn to speak up about such matters rather than just hoping something will go away.....
she obviously gave him ample opportunity to put his foot down and he didn't.

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^ Oh I 100% agree. Personally I think it was a huge mistake on his part to send the extra $600. But since he did it already....I think moving forward, he definately needs to make an example of this. $600 is not pocket change (especially for a guy who just bought his own house and is doing his best to save up for the future)! One way or another, he needs to send the girl a very clear and stern message that this is very unacceptable, and she can't just go spend hundreads of dollars without consulting him first, and expect him to just cough up the money.

When it comes to other wedding expenses or buying stuff for the house immediately after the wedding, I think it's a great idea for him to put his foot down and take out $600 from somehing else. And yes, let her know very directly that he has no choice but to spend $600 less on the other "thing" b/c she insisted on spending $600 extra on the walima dress despite him telling her he couldn't afford more.

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I don't think he should talk with the dad.

This should either be a matter between the women (the moms or MIL and DIL) or between the husband and wife.

IF it is true that he has to cut back somewhere else then he should. If it's not really a huge deal, then I think he should let the money go, but have a very frank discussion with his wife about his disappointment afterward. A whole bunch of people acting childish is not going to improve the situation.

Also, I guarantee there's someone she listens to too much encouraging her to behave in this manner. And he's going to have to keep an eye on that relationship in the future.

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Wow, I think the whole thing sounds really wrong and childlike, even what people are saying should happen next sounds like people are giving recommendations on how to discipline a child. But at the same time I quite like the "-600" idea, it's a good way to stay in budget. I would love to see a picture of this oh-so-expensive dress.

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hehe....now everyone will want to see this dress.

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For the walima dress....$1700 isn't enough and $600 extra is nothing to this girl and her family.

I'm dying to know how much of her own parents money (or her own money) she spent on each of the outfits for the other events (mehndi, nikah, baraat).

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I'll definitely run this suggestion by him. Maybe he'll get a cheaper hotel for the honeymoon. Tee hee!

You're right. He should have been clearer about not paying for the dress. He ignored it the second time around because he figured he had already discussed it when her sister had called and he thought she would get the hint that he isn't keen on paying but they were so......persistent! He never thought the mom would call from Pakistan. His only explanation is that they might be really broke?! Moreover, the mum didn't even talk him. She just left a voicemail on his work and home cell phone and also asked for some DHL money since she has a lot of luggage now and would like to ship the dress via DHL.

:( I know! I hope talking to her will really reinforce his point of view and she would know better than to repeat this in the future. I am just shocked people can behave this way.

Yeah I think it's best he talk to her again and lay out exactly what his feelings and expectations are. And you're absolutely right about her listening to someone. She always gets influenced by her mom and her sister.

I just don't get it. Why do girls ruin a perfectly fine relationship for a dress? I totally get it's a wedding dress and it's very important but to create such bitterness between you and your future family over a dress is in such bad taste. You'll be wearing the dress for one day (ok maybe 2 if your sibling gets married!) but you're making such a negative impression with your in-laws. Is it really worth it?

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DHL money? :hayaa:

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WTF?! :eek:

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Wow these people seem really cheap, petty, materialistic, and immature. Not just the bride.

  1. If he has any reason to doubt her or the kind of people he's marrying into, then maybe it's worth addressing this now.

  2. If he believes that she's the girl he wants to marry, just behaving in an immature and ungrateful manner due to stress and bad advice, then I'd just let it go and be the bigger person. But keep everything between her and him, if possible. I think if he retaliates by cutting corners elsewhere regarding the wedding or forbidding the dress or whatever, she won't forget. Even when she's had time to reflect and realize she was behaving badly, she won't be able to let go of the fact that her husband behaved badly to her on the wedding day, rather than being kind and generous to her.

I get she's being unreasonable and incredibly rude and hurtful. I would totally get satisfaction from the kind of retaliation that you guys are suggesting. But I don't think she would learn any lessons from it. Nor will it lead to a happy marriage. It'll just make them combative. I think there's time later on to address issues. And let's hope a little kindness and flexibility from him in this case will make her a bit more appreciative and self-aware in other areas.

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:hmmm: :chai:

Maybe your friend’s mother can call the girl’s mother, and leave a voicemail stating that she would like to discuss details of the dowry they expect the girl to bring with her.

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i would SO not pay… if they are being besharam enough to demand more money even though they had been told what the budget was… then i would ahve no issue being just as besharam and denying them the money.

a) this shows no regard for what im saying.. you will do waht you want to.

b) if i allow for this behaviour now before the wedding.. im afraid its gonna give her a green signal to do as she pleases in the future too.. so i better nip it in the bud

sometimes i feel like i was a dumb bride… man i knew nothing bout what my in laws were doing for me.. and once it was done.. i didnt even have the sense to think bout any of the stuff they got me.. until much much later.. and that too cuz of what others were talkin bout! both negetive and positive.

i will say it again… larkiya bhi na :rolleyes:

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Chawal pan ka jawab usi tarah dene c aap bhi wohi ban jaoge! :halo:

He should def not ignore this as shows the kind of mentality the family and the girl has. He needs to have a discussion on this with them and see if the differences are workable.

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wow
thats really scary @_@

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LOL! Except he has already told her mom he is not going to be taking any dowry.

You’re right. They really need to resolve this before moving on to the next step. There really is too much outside influence which needs to stop or will only make things worse. I really hope they can sort it out and stay together!

Will definitely post a picture of the dress when I finally see it!

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good lord, the dhl money request is just the icing on the (cheap) cake! i’d love to see what kind of sherwani they’re bringing for him!

no wonder the girl is acting the way she is; if the mother and sister have no qualms openly asking for more money and giving him all the respect of a cash cow, larki ka behaviour toh door ki baat hai. i get the feeling they’re “schooling” her on how to “control” her husband after marriage and put him in his place. :rolleyes: