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hey guys,

i’m currently gathering audio and video clips for this website i’m working on.
i was wondering if anyone can tell me what is the best way to go to organize a audio collection of over two thousand real player format files.

how to list them in categories (artist wise) ?
and how to deal with adding more audio? and automatically updating the website?

any help will be appreciated

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www.joomla.com

Enjoy! :)

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**1) how to deal with adding more audio? and automatically updating the website?
**Create a form to upload file(s). Once uploaded, add record (filename, path, artist etc) for each uploaded file into database (you may even use flat files to save this information. 10000 records are nothing)

**2) how to list them in categories (artist wise) ?
**You have the database, list them any way you like. You can also provide a music search utility.

3) how to organize a audio collection
It's already organized.

When this can be done in just one 25KB Perl/PHP script file then why go for 2500KB of overly generic Joomla code?

I wouldn't use things like Joomla just because it's fashion.

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If you have space for all those audio files I’m sure 2.5 megs is not going to be much of an issue. All depends on what one enjoys in the end. :slight_smile:

Just for streaming you can use something like Slim Server. There was another web based application that I’d seen somewhere but cant find it right now. For SS you would have to develop something else to upload files and once on the server you can scan for new media using SS.

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thanks for the help guys
now i think joomla is like mambo right?
cms, type of service

i'm guessing going with joomla or mambo would be easier to manage content with?

or if i go witht he php script, itesham, woudl it be like just creating a new folder of artist, and it will automatically pick it up in the database and update the site?

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If you go with the php script you’d have to code in stuff about how to upload and then stream it. The database (or a flat file list) would have to be designed and created and you have to write code for organizing the material. If you know all that stuff its not that complicated, but in this case I’m thinking otherwise.

If you go with Joomla/Mambo, you’d still need to install the software and then mysql but once you get it up the rest would be straightfoward.

Another thing you can try is the ShoutCast network: http://www.shoutcast.com/

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thank you tofibaba.
you are right i am not at all good with this whole programming business.
i can create web layouts and graphics but not too good with the coding end.

i just got in touch with my hosting company and they do support Mysql and php which i believe is needed for Joomla./Mambo, i tried to install mambo (just to test, altho i think i'm gona go with joomla) and it worked, i installed a pre-designed cms template.

i still have 2 oustanding questions (once again sorry these questions may seem dumb or too simple to some of u who know about this type of stuff).

1) after playing around with mambo, i can't seem to point it to a directory which holds my "audio" files, and generate pages with the proper links to run those files

2) my mambo database is 100 megabytes which only a few percent is being used, my storage space that i have with the host (1and1.com) is 200 gigabytes, will i be able to store my audio files outside of the database? or do i have to ask my host to increase the space of the database itself?

here is what they list under my mysql package

MySQL Database Set Up and Configuration The following view and edit options are available on this page:

  • ** Available or set up databases ** You see all the databases set up so far, as well as the availability of additional MySQL databases.
    If you have not used a database yet, please click on Set Up to enable the MySQL database.
  • ** Configuration of the MySQL database ** Delete an existing database or change its password.
  • ** Disk space** See details on the used, maximum, and remaining disk space for every database created within this package.

** Important MySQL Usage Information **

  • The MySQL database may not be used for log evaluation operations, ad clicks, chat systems, banner rotations, or similar applications putting extreme loads on the database under any circumstances.
  • Your MySQL databases are stored behind a firewall to protect your data. You can only access each one exclusively through your server. Direct access to your MySQL databases using a home PC (external ODBC connection) cannot be established.

Please note:

The Admin function gives you unrestricted access to your MySQL databases. Any changes made using this interface cannot be rolled back. Deleting entries in forum (ex. phpBB), guestbook or similar applications should only be made using the administrative functions of the particular application.

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You are right. 2.5MB of web space is not a problem today but I was comparing the 2.5MB of code with a 25KB code.

Enjoyment is vital and I see that someody has already started enjoying Mambo.

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Perhaps you should search in mambo community forum or even ask the same questions there. I hope you get quick and good solution there.

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One of the easiest ways to do this is to use this commercial software Wimpy MP3 player.

Otherwise there’s tons of diff mods available for Mambo. Do a search on their forums.

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thank you guys,
i didn't even know mambo/joomla had a forum
just looked there and its full of resources... thank you for pointing me in the right direction

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Tofibaba, na bachey ko darao...

Joomla has all the plugins and pre programmed stuff you need to work with audio/video files. I don't think you would need to "program" anything into it using php, etc.

On the other hand, knowledge of simple php and html would help make things easier for you.

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jaan leva,

i've been browsing joomla forums and doing as much reading as possible.
joomla looks good to work with but as far as doing what i need to do
it looks like a hassel to me using joomla...

i have 2500-3000 audio files (rm format) that i need to list in a very organized manner...

i know html but i can't find the right php script

any help once again from u guys will be greatly appreciated

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How is joomla a hassel?

What type of organization do you want to achieve?

Sections and categories?

Tables and cells?

Are you going to put up any text with the each audio file?

Or are you looking to list files like those old pakistani/indian song sites? :D (the hard way)

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GenSec,
Now that u have Mambo installed and need help start another thread if you need help in that. I think people are getting confused here between Mambo and Joomla. Please specify what u did install and take it from there.

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the files i have are poets, so i'm hoping to launch a site with alot of shairi (real media audio)

the way i want to organize it kind of like ur traditional indian pakistani music sites...

have artists listed alphabetically

Artist A, Artist B, Artist C

(So now u can select from a pull down menu or a list ont he page)'
once u select the artist

this appears:

Artist Name > Audio Clip 1
Audio Clip 2
Audio Clip 3

now i already have the artists divided up alphabetically in folders on my home pc - and once i list the files on the site i would like to put some text to the file, preferebally the title of the poem

now that you guys have a clear undesrtanding what i'm trying to achieve (well i hope i explained myself clearly) - maybe it mite be easier for u all to offer a solution

thanks to everyone for all ur help

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Joomla would be able to do that… its free too.

Or pay some money for **Article Manager **:smiley:

With any CMS, you would need to recreate the category structure.

www.domain.com/poetry/artistA/clipname2.html
www.domain.com/poetry/artistB/clipname2.html

Article Manager can automatically create directories in your hosting as you create the categories in administration area. It would store the information in mySQL database plus static file (html/php/asp/whatever) for faster access and SEO?

Married and Fooling Around on GS
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yaar i’ve been trying to do this with joomla for days now
n e idea on how joomla would be able to do this?

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Well, you need SEO hack.

Search for extentions, such as:

OpenSEF or JoomSEF. I prefer OpenSEF, as I've used it more often and know that it works well.

Joomla works like this:

Sections
--Categories
----Content Items

Thats as far deep as it could go as far as categorical structure is concerned but there is way around it which you won't need in your case.

You can't have sections within section or categories within category.... so content items under categories and categories under sections.

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so what did u really install? joomla or mambo? gizzy is a whizz with both, go bug him.