We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

These students are unbelievably stupid and backwards… Despite the fact that people in the area have no problem with the Church be renovated, it takes just a few retards to make the whole community look bad…
There excuse.. It will encourage other minorities to want to reopen their own places of worship!!!

Plan to rebuild church triggers row

By Shazia Gul

PESHAWAR, Jan 20: Reconstruction of a church, which is situated on the Peshawar University campus, has sparked a controversy between a group of students and the Christian community dwelling there.

Most of the people living on the campus are least bothered about the reconstruction of the United Church, which is in a dilapidated condition. However, a group of students has been opposing the move.

While the reconstruction work is yet to start, some students have challenged it in the Peshawar High Court. Two demonstrations were held near the Peshawar Press Club recently against the proposed reconstruction work.

A grant worth Rs5 million has been allocated by the provincial government for the project. The NWFP Chief Minister, Akram Khan Durrani, laid the foundation stone for the reconstruction work on Dec 19.

The church in question is the only one for 1,500 families residing on the university campus and was built in 1970. Its building was damaged by the activists of an Islamic organisation.

The Christian community has welcomed the chief minister’s move and said it was high time that the church building was repaired otherwise a mishap would take place.

A Councillor of the Christian Community Dilawar Maseeh stated: "We don’t want to create any controversy and our only desire is to live peacefully and freely observe religious obligations. He questioned that if they have been using the church for so long and now want to renovate it then why some people have made a serious issue out of it?

Some members of the community also raised the point that if there were 38 mosques in the campus for Muslims then what was the harm in having one church.

Apart from the Christian community, Muslims living in the area too, support them and want to get the building renovated. Some of them told Dawn that they had no objection over the reconstruction work.

Two students, Salahuddin and Murtaza Ali of the NWFP Agriculture University have recently filed a writ petition challenging the reconstruction work. The court has yet to take up the petition for preliminary hearing.

It was mentioned in the petition that the decision of the university administration to reconstruct church was in violation of the university rules.

The students claimed that the reconstruction of the church would result in demands by other minority communities for construction of their places of worship, as well.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/01/21/nat32.htm

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

ullu kay pathay...

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

Although it is somewhat harsh, nothing could be said better than what Mr F said about them!

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:rotfl:

sorry. i know its a serious thread but I couldn’t stop.

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

Nah, this is exaclty why Muslims get abused and vilified in the west, because of Ullu Kay Pathay such as these guys! They are simply stupid beyond belief.

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Particularly disappointing since it usually students whi are supposed to have an open mind about things and resist establishment attempts ...the religious cancer has spread

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Perhaps the MMA Government, the so called elected officials should intervene and convince the students to stop opposing this?

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

You can say that again, I met a Peshawer University Civil Engineer who had come for higher studies to the USA, with whom I happened to be discussing what his objections were to the Kalabagh Dam, mind you a Civil Engineer.


He said when you take the Electricity out from the Water at Terbela and then again at Kalabagh, you weakened the water for folks downstream.
And he was serious.


**After hearing that I thought only Allah can Help Pakistan progress not people like that.........:( **

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Its due to these people that pakistan has been held back

they need to be tied naked to a tree and whipped

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:rotfl: are you serious? I bet he was pulling your legs or you’re pulling our legs! come on!

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

I beg to differ. It is the ignorance and stupidity cancer that has spread instead.
Had the religious cancer really truly spread, there would not have been these problems. Islam does teach its followers to coexist in peace with people of other religions.

Sincerely,
Captain Lota

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No Joke Sir, I would name names but that will not prove anything, plus the Gentleman was well known to me all along til he made that comment and he was dead serious, like completely adamant that his was the right thinking.


***After that I did not wish to discuss that matter with him or any other person from that University at all..:frowning: ***

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students…

LOL… Thats shocking! If this is the quality of the Pakistani graduates, im glad he didnt become a surgeon or somthing…

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students…

Well, in the End the Supreme Court has done the nation a favor by denouncing these morons… Their is hope for the country!
Although, as Garamhawaandtandapani said, these are students, and they are supposed to be open minded…

http://www.dawn.com/2007/01/24/local37.htm
PESHAWAR: Plea against church rebuilding disposed of

Bureau Report

PESHAWAR, Jan 23: The Peshawar High Court on Tuesday observed that Islam guaranteed complete freedom to religious minorities for practising their faith and there was no bar on construction of their places of worship.

A two-member bench comprising Chief Justice Tariq Pervez Khan and Justice Qaim Jan Khan disposed of a writ petition, challenging the reconstruction of a church on the Peshawar University campus.

The petition was filed by two students of the NWFP Agriculture University, stating that the reconstruction work on the church was illegal.

The petitioners, Murtaza Ali and Salahuddin Ahmad, said that the construction work had been going on without approval from the university syndicate.

They said that the construction of the church would create law and order problems in the university.

They said that the reconstruction of the church would give birth to unending demands by other religious minorities for the same purpose.

At the outset of the proceedings, the chief justice inquired from the petitioners’ counsel why they had been trying to portray Islam as a religion which was averse to religious freedom to the minorities.

Justice Tariq Pervez observed that Islam and the Constitution of Pakistan guaranteed protection to the religious minorities.

He said that Islam always believed in peaceful co-existence between people of different faiths.

The chief justice said that Muslims had been constructing mosques in non-Muslim countries and had openly been propagating their faith then why the petitioners were against reconstruction of a place of worship of a minority community.

The petitioners’ counsel, Khursheed Ahmad Shahan, contended that in missionary institutions Muslims were never allowed to construct a mosque. The bench observed that Muslims in missionary institutions were allowed to practise their faith and nobody stopped them from offering prayer.

Mr Shahan said that the syndicate had not been taken into confidence by the university authorities and the provincial government.

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

I feel great sense of pride after reading the comments of the Judges... It shows that our judicial system isnt completely screwed up... A real smack to all those Islam bashers in the west.

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

Well there is atleast one part of Pakistan, the Supreme Court which has a brain

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This is disguisting. I think their reason for not allowing the church is their anger at the West because of its atrocities against the Muslim World.

Someone needs to tell these idiots that the west is not representative of all of Christiandom, the Nasrani/Maseehi community of Pakistan are our brothers and are not responsible for genocide of Muslim perputrated by the West, they're not the ones who took our land and gave it to Israelis, they're not the ones who invade our lands for oil under false pretenses, they're not the ones who put puppet regimes in our countries to persecute us through them and then they attack us on the false pretense of getting rid of the very regimes they created and supported.. All Christians are not to blame, Christian Palestinians are just as persecuted by the terrorist states of USA and Israel as our Palestinian Muslims, they're just as much the victims like our brothers, Arab Palestinian priests have said time and time again that they're with their fellow Arab Palestinians... From the days of the Crusades carried out by these fascist barbarians the Asian Christians were just as much the victims of their agression as the Muslims, these savages didn't even spare those of our Arab Christian brethren who were praying in the Holy Church of Nativity, murder (crusade and inquisition) is so deep in their nature they even slaughtered the very Jews whose back sides they now have to lick and we stood up to defend those Jews.

Let's not forget the kindness of Christain Negus's towards our early community either, when we were persecuted by Pagans, it was Christians who gave us safe refuge.. Let's not paint all Christains in the same brush, let's revert back to our traditional tolerance like in the times when certain Christians sects were being persecuted in Europe we gave them refuge in our lands and laid down our lives to protect them.

Ours is the way of tolerance, not like these who swing from one extreme to the other, at times they put on a fake show of 'tolerance and equality' and then at times they openly detest us, we one the other hand are meant to be balanced and fair.

We need to protect Christians in Peshawar the same way we treat the Sikhs.

I don't think Islam is their reason because the Prophet PBUH allowed Christians and Jews to worship freely according to their own religions, he even allowed a delegation of Orthodox Christian Bishops to say their prayers in a corner of Masjid An-Nabwi (which is the second HOLIEST place in the world for us).

The Prophet PBUH is reported to have said "he who hurts a 'protected-person' (Non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic state) hurts me and he who hurts me hurts God".

These so called Christians in the west are a blotch on the Christian faith, they're not it's true representatives, they're a shame to our and their Messiah Jesus-Ibn-Mary PBUT who is the Prince of Peace.

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^ Well said PP. :k:

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sad indeed.

Re: We dont want your Church on our campus say Peshawar University Students....

Here's something to think about. If anyone has a law background, think about this hard and long. If you dont, still give this a thought. It's a thesis I've been working on for the last year :

Get rid of the "Islam" out of "The Islamic republic of Pakistan". Then, develop for yourself, a constitution very similar to the United States. Incorporate key religious features, essentially make it a constitution based on Islamic values. Keep islamic values to keep moderates happy, but dont give any idiots the right to terrorize vulnerable minorities because they lay claim of the "islamic republic of pakistan".

It's a little thing that can effectively turn Pakistan's minority problem on its head. Legally at least.