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The only reason because they have started to believe the ever ending materialistic world and have forgotten Allah / GOD.

Me saying you wrong and you returning it is not going to make sense any longer.

First; You have mixed up Hinduism with Buddhists and other religions of idol worshiping. Confirming my position that even Hindus (I assume you might be) don't know what Hinduism is about and they keep their faith so much ambiguous that people just accept what ever is said to them.

Off course Hinduism is much deeper and (blank) than what appears on the surface. If you continue to degrade Islam due to your ignorance, this blank could actually be filled with words.

Second: The comment about Indonesian Govt. was very bad. You should commend them to be polite and respectful. Your attitude gives more reason to suspect why you might have been banned from other sites. You tried to play reverse psychology in other post.

Third: And read below my response as well:

Idol worshiping is in direct conflict with Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Idol worshiping is one of the major tenet of Hinduism or related religions including Pagans of early days of islam. Musa AS (Moses AS) was absolutely upset when he came back from Mount Sinai seeing his people doing idol Worshiping.

These concepts do not mix up.

Only stupid politics and advantage taken by Hindus of situation of politics of the world we need to focus on.

Humm,

I do not know where to begin.

Do you 'worship' your father if you get angry when someone calls name or talks bad about your father in front of you?

(Not that any muslim consider the Prophet SAW as his or her father, don't even try!..........)

When I get that answer then we can continue.

Sound like you might need some help understanding what 'worshiping' means.

Peace afishcurry

LOL ... I don't think you read my post at all ... I'm agreeing with you ... I said that these days there seems to be more religious flexibility amongst the Hindu religions. However, I don't necessarily think it is a good thing because untamed religious freedom can create the scenario of disrepsect of religious views. The teacher was wrong because he put himself in God's position. God is not a man nor has the shortfalls of man. Invoking the Name of God is not for God's benefit, but for our benefit. The people in the temple were following an established way the teacher was following his own created thoughts and cast his own views on the situation. The correct thing to have done was to go to the people in the temple and ask them why they chant.

Also I am not intending to get into a match with you about same scenarios with different names and what people will do ... as it has no bearing on the philosophical basis of this discussion.

You worship Quran to worship your Allah. You think Quran is a way to Allah. Prove me wrong.

Yes I worship my father. I respect him and I worship him.
I think the muslims respect and worship Mohammad. I am not saying its bad. I am just saying you are hypocritical.

Wrong.. go read about it :D

As the philosophical thought process increases in the western world and in islam, they will start migrating towards the hindu philosophy or different paths to the same God.

Most of the religions are young (<2000 years) when compared to Hinduism (~ 5000 years). By the time another three milleniums are completed, there will be a significant change in the spirituality of the religions. It is inevitable for the other religions to follow the path of Hinduism.

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Swami Vivekanand paid visisted to a muslim chieftan for donation. Muslim Chieftain as expected gave him lecture on how idol-worship is harama and all that.

Vivekanad spotetd a life size picture of Chieftain's father hanging from the wall..

He asked to take that picture down and then he asked that gentleman to spit on that picture.

Chieftan sahbe said no I can't it's my father's picture. Vivekanad argued but it's not your father it's amere picture. That gentlmena got the drift.

needless to say he becam Vivekanad's disciple.
It's essentially worship-through-idol not idol-worship.

Let us hope sanity prevails and the childish mentality akin to my-daddy-is-best gives way to some matured thought

Idols as something that is verneated, perhaps...but we do not worship idols, be they human or stone. If something is sacred, that is one thing...but it is my understandng that the idols being worshiped are ascribed diety-status, in full or in part.

So I asked the question to a Hindu. My bad. What else I was expecting?

Worshiping for muslims is a completely different act.

Muslims do not 'worship' anything but Almighty the one. Respecting is not equal to worshiping for muslims.

Perhaps it may be a news to you. :)

Hinduism was not the only panthiest faith, and there are wayward Christian denominations that proclaim to be such.

If the West does adopt anything remotely "Hindu", it will be without the cultural references, the Hindu pantheon, mythology, etc. At which point, we need to ask...what would be so "Hindu" about this newfound phiosophy in the first place?

Not true.

Islam (and related two religions) date back to the creation of Adam.

Rest of the part is completely false imagination and hope of yours. Which you might be entitled to.

We discussed here about idol worship.Just tell us how idol worship in Hinduism and Budhism or any other religion can be different.Who said Hindus do not know about their religion?Hinduism may be intricated but it is not beyond someone's logical level to know about it.If this is the point you have got,even Muslims do not know what is their religion.Now lets not force each other to put examples.It wont have any end.

I do not understand what you meant by Hinduism as deep and blank.What was the point you were trying to make with that blank usage?If you are saying it is deep,yes,I agree. but certainly it is not blank.I am confused with your statement.Having studied and practised for so long,I have never felt it is blank.Infact this is the first time I got such a response from somebody.I am truely astonished.

Where did I degrade Islam?Can you give me one example?If this is an attempt to score a shuttle point ,then let me tell you it's futile one.I respect Islam and my closest friend is a Muslim.But at the same time I believe in Hinduism and it gives me all I need and I need not serach for happiness and peace in other religions.Its not any degrading statement intended for any religion but it's a fact.I will not meddle with other religions and beliefs but I will not let others to plunder a bit of my religion and belief.Thats a statement.

The comment about Indonesian government is justified seeing and witnessing their political atmosphere.Earlier there had been many discriminations but as with time,everything faded,thanks to a wonderful and bolstered unity among Balanese.I have lived in Bali and I go there every year.Infact I am closely associated with a cultural Hindu movement(originated and having roots in India) there in Bali.I will certainly say,Jakarta does not have guts to interfere in Bali.It's a fact.Not a bad statement at all. (Let alone alone Bali,they won't even do it in Batam,which is a tourist spot,just 20 kmm off Singapore,where liquor is actually banned ,but you will get all stuffs!!! ).What did you mean by reverse psychology?Where and in what way?Just by playing with words,the message will not be vivid.

Pls tell us the concept of cross?Is it not idol ? If not idol,what it is?

Do you know the rituals followed by a section of Christians in Philippines?Believers offer themselves to be tied and nailed to cross and will remain on cross,which is an exact replica of a Hindu tradition practised in India and some parts of South East Asia during a particular festival period.What does this mean?

Almost all religions follow idol worship.

That is an obviously ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised ??

I lolled

Re: We are all hindus now: NewsWeek

^^ u dont have to.. thats true.. and even Hazrat Adam (AS) when he saw from sky to the Earth he found only two names written on it. Allah and then Muhammad.

Its not a statement I heard on fly but its a firm Riwayah (further told)

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