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*Message of Hindu Scriptures for Mankind
During their spiritual quest, the ancient rishis experienced sparks of divinity in all things and beings of the world. The vision of the Hindu scriptures is thus a vision of the unity of all existence, summarized as follows:
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  • There are many ways of conceiving the Supreme Reality (Brahma) and numerous ways of approaching It. To insist that one's own way is the only way is thus wrong and harmful
  • God is the source of goodness and truth. Man's goal in life is to seek union with Him. This union can be sought in many ways, all requiring sincerity of purpose, self-sacrifice and discipline.
  • The highest religious experience is the one in which an individual transcends the intellect and realizes God immediately.
  • The concept of "survival-of-the-fittest" is God's law for the animals. Harmlessness to all creatures is His law for humans.
  • *There is natural order (*rita) inherent in the natural world. There must be moral order (dharma) inherent in human life. Everyone must be responsible for his (or her) actions and their conse-quences (karma). We cannot blame God for our ills. **
  • Individual responsibility and one's ethics are a foundation for individual happiness and social stability.
  • The universe is a wheel of sacrifice (yajña). At the beginning the Supreme Lord performed self-sacrifice to create the universe and set the wheel in motion. The water sacrifices to form clouds, the clouds sacrifice to make rains, the rains sacrifice to grow food, and the food sacrifices to feed humans. In turn, humans must sacrifice for the welfare of the Mother Earth and all its creatures
  • There is no intrinsic evil in Nature nor any evil force in the world to oppose God. Man commits evil only due to ignorance (mãyã).

  Icon,this is more than enough to state it.....

Hinduism is not a modern religion like Islam,christianity or judaism......Its Sanatan....*nobody knows where it started or who started it.........Its the one of the oldest religions in the world ....so, u c,*islam, christianity is not specifically mentioned.........Different ways of union with God can be any way according to ur beliefs....

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This is why some of the westners involved with Hare Krishna mission are still christians but preach and follow the teachings of Krishna :)

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^^That’s what swami Vivekananda said when he visited chicago …
Swami Vivekananda at World Parliament of Religions 1893 – Himalayan Hermit, Shayar, Guitarist, Googler, Time Traveler | Gautam Dhar

I woudl be banned if I use that lnagauge..

heck i have banned from several forums for postign abotu kargill.> i guess if one os Mod one can spew nonsense..

As others have raised question are we to belive since many early muslims killed another muslism refer back to shia-sunni conflict does that mean islam doesn't consider all muslims worthy of life..

Please make sure when you are indluging in generalizationbecause same tool can eb used against you.> of course to shut people you can always bant hem btu that doesn;t change the fact..

precisely btu beware infractions and ban might come to your door nobody disagrees with mod here

Frankly I don’t know why there is any need of conversion in first place we hindus belive in many path leadign to same God hence no matetr on what path on is as long as one doesn’t break the basic ethos of humanity he she it is hindu and can have his cultural religious baggage yet wud be worthy of salvation.. We don’t believe in prevalent theory in other religions where hell-awaits you if you don’t pray the way they ask you to.

During Khilafat movement the leader of Khilfata Muhd ali had following to say to Mahatma Gandhi..
Mohammad Ali said: “Even the most degraded Muhammadan was better than Mahatma Gandhi.”
refeence: Maulana Mohammad Ali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindus don’t belive that if you are good human being you are good human being worthy of salvation irrespective of your way of preaching

You totally missed the point it;s not about outward ritualism it's about the philosphy.. And the moment anyone buys into obvious logical ethos of salvation can be acheived by good deeds irrespective of the way one worships that person has wedded himself/herself to hindu philosphy.. For many this realization would be hard pill to swallow but that's fact

Why stop just at different religions hinduism also sanctions nirgun faith where you don't need to bow and pray to any god.. Just Be a good human being there is not even a need to worship any god for being a good hindu..

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I am not at all surprised that people in secular countries are finding patterns in the Hindu religions to their own lifestyle choices. There is a bit of a difference however, the difference lies in class.

In the Hindu religions (there are many not just one) people are born to given communities the people of whom worship a diety, they are not free to choose to worship another deity from another community, however a new trend in Hindus is beginning to show that people are becoming more flexible with whom they appoint as deity. This is reflected somewhat in the gradually increasing trend of inter-cast marriages, which was alien to Hindu culture until very recently.

Americans and the West in general are on the other hand starved of their irreligious behaviour. Due to a flurry of new cults and modern versions of older ones being allowed to grow in the secular West more and more people are becoming members of a multitude of different religions. This impacts the way the people are profiled. To maximise effectiveness the product sellers are creating catch all comments such as "all paths lead to God" ... in actual fact they don't believe any paths lead to God, they are secularists and worship success. It is a form of mental slavery. Likewise to appease the lower classes they are told that all paths lead to God, but the point still stands some believe that different paths lead slower or faster than others.

Even in Islam we say that we are all destined for the same end, i.e. the Gathering. However, there is a greater purpose. We all go to our Lord but it is the state we reach there that is important. In other words All Paths Leading to God has a context ... and the Hindu religions are not void of this context. The explanation is void of purpose. If all paths lead to God then it suddenly makes the religion redundant. If it is acceptable to be a non-Hindu then it would not matter if there were no more Hindus. A self-defeating philosophy cannot have been the reason why it is one of the oldest faiths in the world.

The success of the Hindu order is due to its structure of community and it's basic philosophy to be hard working and noble.

There are very different reasons why they both seem to be the same but Hindu religions are unlike "club like" attitude of faith that is developing in the West.

I have seen white and black american practising hinduism,(i don't use the word convert, i believe hinduism is not religion its humanity, if you are a human you a hindu)
recently for first time i saw some lations too on last friday on Krishnastami festival, many of them chanted "Hare Krishna Hare Ram"

This is news to me. It is not correct.

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In the Hindu religions (there are many not just one) people are born to given communities the people of whom worship a diety, they are not free to choose to worship another deity from another community, however a new trend in Hindus is beginning to show that people are becoming more flexible with whom they appoint as deity. This is reflected somewhat in the gradually increasing trend of inter-cast marriages, which was alien to Hindu culture until very recently.

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You have been royally misled noboyd gives a damn whether you worship rama or shiva or krishana or any other God.. Anyone who has given you this information have acted with malicious intent..

Not only people are free to choose the name by which they call their god and the way they worship they are even free to question ridiculuous aspect of God idea..

I vividly remmebe when i was in seventh my science teacher exclaimed ,when sound of chanting was constantly beaming from the nearby temple and it was mkaing hard for students to hear teacher's words, that this chanting is all nonsense yes in class and went on to put his case to impressionable students that just think about it someone constantly chants your name in your face would you be pleased or irritated.. these fools thik that constatly chanting rama rama they are impressing god.. You can refute this but he did approach it logically..

I went home and asked same questin to my father my father being religiuos person shot down the question saying that teacher has no knowledge.. but my impressionable mind was not convinced wit the answer I got form my father.. anyway logn story short noone visisted that teacher's place with any sort of explanation it was hsi views and he was free to express it........

Just replace the same scenario about someone questioning Allah and imagine what will happen to that gentleman .. people get burnt alive on mere rumours of quran desecration..

Long story short there is enough r latitude to do what you want in hinduism as long as you are not nuisance to your fellow human being

Wrong statements.

Hinduism is not even definable by hindus themselves.

Idol worshiping has been over many parts of the world and these three religions have been constantly negating this idol worshiping.

Now hindus per se living one part of the world (mainly hindustan) and being cut off from other parts of the world one can think of a possibility.

You saying something fact does not necessarily a fact. You might just be believing it to be fact and in fact (pun) it may not be a fact. :-)

Now me missing the point.....Isn't this what you have mentioned that west somehow is embracing hinduism.

There are many ways to spread religion or religious ideas. I mentioned inter-faith marriage. That is a strong tool. Forget philosophy here. 'Love' and 'infatuation' can make people do or say whatever.

Like I mentioned, even hindus do not know or are shy to admit their ideologies and number of their Gods, then this so called 'philosophy' becomes really a moot point.

Wrong.Who said Hinduism is not defined by Hindus?It is very much defined.

Idol worship is strong and its getting stronger and stronger in all parts of the world.

Hindus living in Hindustan cut off from the world?In what sense?Hindus are there across the world and everywhere they do it irrespective of Indian Hindus and outside Hindus.The purest form of Hindusim is seen only in Bali,Indonesia and not even in India, where idol worship is the order of the day.For them religion comes first and rest comes only second to it.Even the so-called Muslim goverment of Indonesia does not have guts to interfere in Bali.

What abt Hindus in Srilanka,Nepal,Singapore Bali and Far East,West Indies and all other parts of the world?What abt scores of Chinese in Singapore who have converted to Hindusim and those who take part in Hindu festivals praying to Hindu deities,offering money etc...?

What abt Pakistani Hindus?They do use idols... :)

Forget abt Hindus.Budhism in Far East does the same.What abt even christianity?What does corss represent?

Idol worship is growing stronger and stronger....

Hindus do idol worshiping. But tell me dont the other religion also worship idols. You worship Quran. That is idol to me. Doesn't Christians worship the cross. These are idols, symbols that defines one religion. To me that is idol worshiping. If you dont care about the Quran or prophet Mohammad, then why would you get angry if someone says something bad about it or him.

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^^ go back to your bed mate.. if you really awake then try to understand Islam and then reply.

WE (Muslims) dont worship Quran rather Allah and if you want to have a concept of Allah you need to open your mind for that.