WC 2003 - Super Six Stage.

I am very curious why India's entry to semis is only 'almost' and not 'absolutely' sure at this point?

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*Originally posted by aravamudhan: *
I am very curious why India's entry to semis is only 'almost' and not 'absolutely' sure at this point?
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Just imagine this situation..

NZL defeats IND, ZIM
KEN defeats ZIM
SL defeats IND,ZIM

Yuvraj is turning out to be a very good finisher and match winner.Of the 13the 50s h had scored in ODIs ,India won 12 of matches.
A very mature cricketter at such a young age.
:k:

With Pakistan out of the games i’m not even interested in the cup anymore :sleep:

I dan understand.
Damn Sachin… :wink:

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*Originally posted by aravamudhan: *
I am very curious why India's entry to semis is only 'almost' and not 'absolutely' sure at this point?
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india currently have 12 points.
aus is already in semis.
in the following scenerio however unlikely it may be, india will have to pack its bags.

nz beats all three(ind, aus and zim)
ken beat zim
sl beat ind and zim.

these results will send aus, nz, ken and sl through.
there might be other scenerios too but i have not tried to think of more.

Munna.

So to control her own destiny India needs atleast one more win. OK, I think I got that.

Does NZ have to beat Aus or not? (for India to need atleast one more win) If that is the case then I'd say India is assured of a berth in semis.

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Does NZ have to beat Aus or not?

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NO.not necessarily.

Right, and Kenya had good seamers to move the ball. BTW, congratulations to India on this win :k:

Congrats to india.

Asif bhai to be honest I cannot rememebr how many they won in 1999, but does it matter. If it was wrong then, it is wrong now as well. The simple fact that Australia got through to semis by just winning one game seems odd to me. Simple as that. I am not interested in anything else. I think the playing field should have been level and all six teams should start with zero points and play each other once again.

I think the root cause for such anamolies is letting the teams 'carry' points from one round to another. I cannot see what advantage this brings but sure seems to create strange mix ups.

Ultimately ofcourse the better teams will get to the final

ehsan bhai - In 1999 World Cup Pakistan won only one match that too against Zimbabwe, It lost the games against India and SA. Pakistan went to the Super six because of its consistent performance during the group matches. Pak won all the matches except BD.

Same happened with Australia this year, Australia won all its group matches and first match in Super Six and they are into semis now because of their consistency throughout the tournament. The whole purpose of super six was this. Inconsistent teams like India,NZ,SL,ZIM still have to play and win important matches.

Regarding your point about having reached SF by just one win, well isn't the same happen in Knockout rounds ?? You win the QF, you in SF ?

PS :- I am with you on your logic of having to start with 0 points and all the super six teams play each other.

Just watched the highlights of India-Kenya game. I must say, Saurav Ganguly’s century guided a nervous India to victory. At one stage, India were 24/3; and upset couldn’t be ruled out at that moment. But then, Ganguly teamed up with Dravid and Yuraj and took India to victory. Nicely done, skipper. :k:

Kenndy and Shah put a great fight against India. They played good strokes. Unfortunate run out of Shah pressurized Kenyans. Though, 225 in 50 overs was a good reply from Kenya, indeed.

There was no moment of ball from the Kenyans to take the advantage of the weather conditions. I listened to the interview of Dr. Ali Bacher and he defended D/N matches. Therefore, second Semi-Final would be played in D/N duration.

the D/N SF at durban seems to be fair. the history of D/N matches suggests that both sides have a fair chance of victory. before ind-eng match, the scores were level with teams batting first winning 5 times and teams batting second also winning 5 times.
but a D/N match at cape town seems to be heavily weighed in favour of the side batting first. before todays match between ind and kenya, the side batting first had won in 15 matches out of 19. also the commentators spoke about the sudden changes in weather that are known to occur in cape town.

Munna

You know what.. its good.. Australia will win and win and win.. and then get bored and over-confident in their own abilities. So they might lose either the semi or the final. They are just not challanged enuf. It will take just one team, to turn the table on them. I wish it won't happen in Super-6, cz then Aussie will wake up again for the semis. I hope some team shocks them in the knock-out stage of the tournament. Who knows, it might be India.

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*Originally posted by ehsan: *
.......The simple fact that Australia got through to semis by just winning one game seems odd to me. Simple as that. I am not interested in anything else. I think the playing field should have been level and all six teams should start with zero points and play each other once again.
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I think there has to be some chages made to the supersix format. Victories in the supersix stage must carry more value, something like 8pts for a victory(in league stage we have 4pts for victory) and these 8pts will obviously going to solve some problems.

Faisal you are talking about the Aussies not PAK, IND or anyother team who get boared after consecutive wins. They take each match seriously and they are in the process of joining the Windies for winning WC 3 times so I doubt they will get bored they always have motivation to win even if they are playing a 3rd class team or a top class team. They like to be on top and they are on top plus they play as a team and for their country not as individuals :wink:

People talking about watching the Aussies on top for the last few years which makes them hate the Aussies well they are the best what do u expect? They should start losing to make u love them? :hehe:

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They take each match seriously and they are in the process of joining the Windies for winning WC 3 times so I doubt they will get bored

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They are in the process of joining the Windies in three consecutive finals not 3 wins, Teaser bhai.

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They are in the process of joining the Windies in three consecutive finals not 3 wins, Teaser bhai.
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Thanx for correcting :)

** NZ V Zimbabwe**

Zimbabwe won the toss and elected to bat.

Zim 33/1 after 10.3 overs.