In certain parts of the UK such as Bradford benefit fruad/ crash for cash scams are rife in certain sections of the mipuri community. Most Pakistanis get tarred with the same brush, hence their unrest towards certain sections of the mipuri community.
Here we go again :(
There's good and bad everywhere, yes there may be unemployed Mirpuris out there, but i dont know one, yes there may be cousin marriages but that happens around pakistan too, abuse of women happens everywhere too, hey don't forget about the poor men, they get abused too u know :( and lastly crime, i bet u can guess wat im gonna say next..... crime is everywhere too, its not just the Mirpuris who are criminals.
i would like to know what the issue is about aswell, i keep coming across threads like this one and would like to know who is saying things about us Mirpuris. frankly speaking the Mirpuris i know are hard working, honest, giving and friendly, yes a minority of them may be otherwise but the majority are pleasant.
I think it was some tv show that was discussing this issue when I first realised this was even an issue. But can't remember what exactly the issue was. Yeah you can tell I'm clueless. So what exactly is the dealio?
I don't judge people, but I do see some trends ... mirpuris are quite a large community in the UK ... where other groups such as lahories, pindis, faisalabadies, sindhis, kashmiris and so on are quite small and are intermixed. What happens is that despite their large size they are still quite insular and the others are not they can't afford to be. By being insular I mean they deal with their own, and are unable to adjust their behaviour and attitude which is palatable to a wider audience.
However due to the blessing of my tariqah (Islamic spiritual path) I meet and form brotherly bonds with many mirpuris because for them like me the brotherhood is more important than the towns or villages we may have come from.
Just like other insular communities the members will uphold some sort of "law" with each other, but with others will be less inclined to uphold the same "values" and hence they get a bad reputation. By percentage I admit that every community has their black sheep, but because there are a higher overall number of mirpuris then the amount of dodgy activities done by mirpuris seems to be much higher. There may be a tendancy to do more dodgy things than the other communities because they are less "concerned" with what others may think due to their large numbers and also they are more inclined to "compete" with one another in how "dodgy" they can be to cheat the system.
Apart from my close brothers in tariqah most of whom are highly qualified professionals and do not need to resort to those things any way and their value system prevents such any way, whenever I speak to mirpuris they always talk about "money". One "uncle" who runs a masjid I know always asks me "where are you living?", "Is it your own house?" and one time he even asked me "how much do you earn?" and his sons who are older than me with their own families don't batter an eyelid ... It is as if they are used to these questions being asked from others all the time.
I only know two mirpuris and they come from really good and respectable families. And one is doing her LLM and the other is doing her PhD MashaAllah. I think its ignorant to assume everyone is the same. Every group has their good and bad.
Mirpuris are from Mirpur in Azad Kashmir. The Pakistan government made a dam in the 60s that flooded large areas of the land there. They gave each family enough money in compensation to fund a move to elsewhere. Mirpuris realised that this money was also enough for a one-way ticket to the UK, which at that time freely accepted immigration from any Commonwealth country. In time, one man from each family funded the arrival of another family member, who in turn funded more and more.
Mirpuris were thus the original major Pakistani immigrant community in the UK. Later waves of immigrants from other parts of Pakistan arrived much later.
I don't judge people, but I do see some trends ... mirpuris are quite a large community in the UK ... where other groups such as lahories, pindis, faisalabadies, sindhis, kashmiris and so on are quite small and are intermixed. What happens is that despite their large size they are still quite insular and the others are not they can't afford to be. By being insular I mean they deal with their own, and are unable to adjust their behaviour and attitude which is palatable to a wider audience.
However due to the blessing of my tariqah (Islamic spiritual path) I meet and form brotherly bonds with many mirpuris because for them like me the brotherhood is more important than the towns or villages we may have come from.
Just like other insular communities the members will uphold some sort of "law" with each other, but with others will be less inclined to uphold the same "values" and hence they get a bad reputation. By percentage I admit that every community has their black sheep, but because there are a higher overall number of mirpuris then the amount of dodgy activities done by mirpuris seems to be much higher. There may be a tendancy to do more dodgy things than the other communities because they are less "concerned" with what others may think due to their large numbers and also they are more inclined to "compete" with one another in how "dodgy" they can be to cheat the system.
Apart from my close brothers in tariqah most of whom are highly qualified professionals and do not need to resort to those things any way and their value system prevents such any way, whenever I speak to mirpuris they always talk about "money". One "uncle" who runs a masjid I know always asks me "where are you living?", "Is it your own house?" and one time he even asked me "how much do you earn?" and his sons who are older than me with their own families don't batter an eyelid ... It is as if they are used to these questions being asked from others all the time.
Most Pakistanis do that! In fact most South Asians except Bangaldeshis. They seem the least money obsessed.
Other than that you seem to have draw fair photo. There are more of them so they appear more likely to crop up in problematic scenarios.
One thing I must add is that they are ethnically and culturally the same as those districts which border them ie Kotli, Jhelim even if these grpups try disassociate themselves from Mirpuris. Although Mirpuris are socially behind people in JHelum in terms of education, healthcare ad other social markers and this transpires itself in the UK. The Mirpuries are not particularly religious but have a conservative culture and often "love" marriages can be a problem because of caste.
They are probably in the lower social grading systems as a whole and will soak the social problesm addociated with that level of society.
