I missed the conversation.
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I missed the conversation.
we are now at point to chose from two options:
- go for extra food and serve leftover to poor
- plan for proper quantity of food, and arrange for the ration for the poor ( for more than one time / day)
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I don't say that leftover food does not mitigate the hunger of hungry people. Its as good as fresh food and superior than the food searched in dustbins, etc. I was just pointing the intent part. When we were arranging for food, we didn't have the poor ones in our mind. We thought it would be served to the guests. If we plan properly and if we can afford, why should not we provide the food to the poor for say a week ( the food which they normally consume), instead of providing them with excess / leftover food for one time.
I get your point.We should take care of that part.But out of a 100 people we might be able to get maybe 20 to care about the intent part.
But atleast 60 might be willing to give up the leftover food for charity.
If my purpose is feeding the poor , I have to find all possible ways.
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we are now at point to chose from two options:
- go for extra food and serve leftover to poor
- plan for proper quantity of food, and arrange for the ration for the poor ( for more than one time / day)
You are talking from an individuals point of view.But im talking abt collectively thinking of ways to feed poor utilizing the bad habits of the society.
We arent on the same page.
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I get your point.We should take care of that part.But out of a 100 people we might be able to get maybe 20 to care about the intent part. But atleast 60 might be willing to give up the leftover food for charity. If my purpose is feeding the poor , I have to find all possible ways.
you are right, its difficult to convey such points to society which prefer show-off over other things.
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You are talking from an individuals point of view.But im talking abt collectively thinking of ways to feed poor utilizing the bad habits of the society. We arent on the same page.
why can't we collectively think for an option which on one hand doesn't hurt self respect of poor and on other hand providing food for more than one time as in case of left over food.
It definitely should be pre-planned, i feel those are irresponsible people who do not plan for these big occassions.
Which poor people are you referring? The one who works in our homes? The one who wander on roads? Can you tell me an easy way to identify these needy? Because those who works at home get their meals from there and i have seen many poor people eating bunkabab from stalls.
I don't have a problem with having more than one dish in a wedding if it's not a show off or doesn't count in asraaf.
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It definitely should be pre-planned, i feel those are irresponsible people who do not plan for these big occassions.
Which poor people are you referring? The one who works in our homes? The one who wander on roads? Can you tell me an easy way to identify these needy? Because those who works at home get their meals from there and i have seen many poor people eating bunkabab from stalls.
If someone search for needy, he/she can identify that in surroundings. may be distant relatives and neighbors.
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I don't have a problem with having more than one dish in a wedding if it's not a show off or doesn't count in asraaf.
What about chosing a place which charge Rs 500 per person and place which charges Rs 1500 per person?
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why can't we collectively think for an option which on one hand doesn't hurt self respect of poor and on other hand providing food for more than one time as in case of left over food.
Increasing awareness among the masses regarding charity ?
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Increasing awareness among the masses regarding charity ?
I'm just trying to clarify my concepts
Nah it’s difficult to find such people in big cities and i don’t even see one in my surroundings.
Even the girl who comes at our home asks me baji aj instant noodles khany ka dil kr raha. I know they have heart too for these little things and i initially gave her money for that. When she started demanding frequently i discouraged it and later found out that she buy mineral water bottles and noodles out of her own salary. I didn’t like the fact that even the poor with monthly low wages don’t save their money for rainy days.
In villages maybe we can find these needy people easily.
A big No for me like i said as far as it is not show off or asraaf.
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Nah it's difficult to find such people in big cities and i don't even see one in my surroundings.
Even the girl who comes at our home asks me baji aj instant noodles khany ka dil kr raha. I know they have heart too for these little things and i initially gave her money for that. When she started demanding frequently i discouraged it and later found out that she buy mineral water bottles and noodles out of her own salary. I didn't like the fact that even the poor with monthly low wages don't save their money for rainy days.
In villages maybe we can find these needy people easily.
There are organisations like Edhi / Silani who feed the needy one everyday. One can collaborate with them, if unable to find needy ones in surroundings.
PS: Your mentioning of the poor again proves that when there are inequalities in societies, poor people try to copy those who can afford such things instead of saving money for their ultimate needs.
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What about chosing a place which charge Rs 500 per person and place which charges Rs 1500 per person?
A billionaire would opt for what he can afford and a middle class would opt for wht he can afford.
Its not logical to say that both of them should get it done within Rs 500.
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There are organisations like Edhi / Silani who feed the needy one everyday. One can collaborate with them, if unable to find needy ones in surroundings.
PS: Your mentioning of the poor again proves that when there are inequalities in societies, poor people try to copy those who can afford such things instead of saving money for their ultimate needs.
People give their zakat's and sadkas to these charities don't they?
Do you think this is just because of inequalitites? could be one of the reason but, not the sole reason. Don't forget these people watch weird things on cables, and why do they copy only such things? why do they run away when we ask them to offer namaz or recite Quran? i have tried to convince them a number of times but, they simply don't listen. Why not copy the good things?
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There are organisations like Edhi / Silani who feed the needy one everyday. One can collaborate with them, if unable to find needy ones in surroundings.
PS: Your mentioning of the poor again proves that when there are inequalities in societies, poor people try to copy those who can afford such things instead of saving money for their ultimate needs.
Here most ppl deal with organisations like you mentioned above as its difficult to find the needy.
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A billionaire would opt for what he can afford and a middle class would opt for wht he can afford. Its not logical to say that both of them should get it done within Rs 500.
may be it seems illogical as we got justification for spending as much as we can afford.
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People give their zakat's and sadkas to these charities don't they?
Do you think this is just because of inequalitites? could be one of the reason but, not the sole reason. Don't forget these people watch weird things on cables, and why do they copy only such things? why do they run away when we ask them to offer namaz or recite Quran? i have tried to convince them a number of times but, they simply don't listen. Why not copy the good things?
media is not playing its part to promote simplicity. After all, glamour is a salable commodity