Waseela Se Mangna

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asking dua from sahib-e-Mazar is shirk per Allah SWT se uske naik bando ke waseele ae mangna to * I think * shirk nahi .

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Re: dargah ajmeer shareef(khwaja gareeb nawaz)

Peace Kinzz,

"Waseele se mangna" kiya or kis tarha hota hy. Plz batain :)

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Re: dargah ajmeer shareef(khwaja gareeb nawaz)

Waseele se manga is tarah ke

Aye Allah SWT tu apne is naik bande ke waseele se hamari yeh hajat puri farma...

Wo log jinho ne apne nafs se jihad Kia apni khuwahisho ko chora woh log Allah ke bohot close hain and I'm sure Allah unke waseele hamari dua zaroor qabool farmaye ga..

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[note]Thread splitted from 'Dargah Ajmeer Shareef Khawaj Qareeb Nawaz'[/note]

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what sources/references do we have which define the criteria of a person who is eligible to be a 'waseela'??

matlab........yeh kaisay pata chalta hai k so and so is fit to be a 'waseela' ??

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Re: dargah ajmeer shareef(khwaja gareeb nawaz)

Peace Kinzz,

Kiya us 'bande' ka zinda (alive) hona zaroori hy? :)

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Allah(SWT) ko har tarah ka mangna pasand hay , wasleeay say ya baghair waseelay k. Agar woh shaitan ko mangnay per insaan ko bhatkanay key ijazat day sakta hay toh , baghair waseelay k mangnay per insaan ko mahalat bee uta farma sakta hay.

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Peace Mirch,

Shaitaan ne kis ke 'waseelah' se Almighty Allah se manga? Baki I agree ke 'Shaitaan 'directly' asked from Almighty Allah.

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Ok right now I don't have reference per Maine kahi perha tha * Allah Ki taraf kip waseela talash karo aur waseele se mango*

It's all about faith ...no?

And yes waseela kisi bhi cheez ka ho sakta hai like apni Ki howi koi naiki ka...Anabiya AS ka.. Ya phir Allah SWT ke Asmaul husna ka.

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waseele se maangna is fine kinzz as far as I know .

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Masoomeen ke waseelay se mangna is most afzal cause they are sinless. That includes Anbiyaa and then Kids who passed away at young age.

Then to the people whom Allah was Razi from or who have basharat of jannat. That includes Martyrs and Sahaba

Then allah ke kisi bhee naik banday ke waseelay se mangna is ok.

One has to be very careful with the wordings though

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Peace All,

If we ask Almighty Allah SWT from a 'waseelah', than that 'waseelah' is our 'sifarshi' to Almgihty Allah which means we believe that through the 'waseelah' Almighty Allah SWT will accepts or dua or listen to us. But if we made dua directly to Allah SWT than it maybe aceepted or maybe not.

This kind of believe is considered as a type of 'shirk' where we think that 'waseelah' can benefit us or can be our 'sifarshi' to Almighty Allah. Therefore, I think 'waseela se Mangna' is not jaiz. Whether it is a kind of 'shirk' or not i'll write about it later on.

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^ then taking a medicine is a shirk too because that benefit us too ?

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^
:smack: 5amra

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:(

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Peace 5amra,

Do u say "O Panadole! I'm going to swallow you so plz be my waseela to Almighty Allah so He cure me from this headache" - or -
you say "O Allah! plz put shifa in this panadole which i'm going to swallow, and cure me if u don't wish none medics can cure me".

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How waseelah can be a shirk , can you plzzz tell me that ?

Shirk means if you worship or ask from someone else other than ALLAH & making a waseelah is not at all shirk...

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:smack:

I think you missed this post of kinzz’s

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Peace 5amra,

‘Waseela’ is a type of shirk or not, about this :insh: I’ll write in details.

I didn’t missed that post of kinzz. Read first Para of post#12.

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Waseela is not shirk. This is belief of every momin that on the day of judgement, Prophet :saw2: will ask for shafa of his ummah (he will be our sifarishi) and Allah will grant. Is that shirk? Another hadees says that innocent kids will not enter Jannah without taking their parents with them. Is that shirk. When you go to your Nani/Dadi and ask them to do dua for you, is that shirk?

You are not asking that dead Buzurg to grant you your wish. You are asking Allah :swt: that all the blessings that you poured on your naik bandaa (that buzurg), please add some blessings for mine in it.