Was it worth?

Zulfiqar Mirza gave a speech.

The guy is a nerd and stupid. Despite apology (done by force) he is still racist and hatemonger.

But the city of Karachi had people doing hullar baazi in the name of protest.

About 18 people died.

Was it worth losing these lives? :smack:

When will people be civilzed?

When will this lack of respect for human lives end?

Let alone the loss of work hours/properties/vehicles.

Common man still paid the price by being scared at home.

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No one benefited from all that except blood sucking Draculas (politicians). Its the common man (irrespective of their ethnicity) who suffers from bull****s by one and mad reactions by other.

I was just thinking, if Altaf Hussain had appealed for peace and agitation just immediately after Mirza's statement (instead of delaying it until evening next day), the losses of wealth, economy and above all lives could have been avoided!

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Do you really think that those 18 people were killed by MQM ?

why would MQM kill people in their own areas ?

why would they burn 12 buses at 2k stop - north nazimabad ( a dominate Urdu speaking area )

one should get the list of people killed - their origin - their ethnicity and the place , where they were killed .... And then make your mind ...

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I think the PPP and MQM are just as bad as each other. We always see trouble in Karachi whenever the MQM leaves the government.

Politics is being played with people's lives.

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Where did I say MQM killed ppl. I said an immediate appeal for peace and no agitation (which is delayed till next evening for showing street power or whatever) could have saved losses. This makes me remember a famous urdu Muhawra - wohi tinkay aur daarhi wala!

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Yes, b/c MQM is internationally declared terrorist org and they have no shame in killing people, including their own. The only diff between MQM and Al-Quedia is that MQM uses ethnic card while Ql-Quedia uses Islam.

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That also raises a big question for MQM & its workers.

Ek taraf to waqt ba waqt party qayadat ki taraf se iss tarah ke bayanat aate hain ke jo bhi un ke quaid e ke khilaaf bole ga wo Karachi main qadam nahin rakh sake ga. Just a little example of this ‘Maalik -e- kull’ attitude:

Jab MQM Youm-e-Sog ya strike ka elaan karti hai to Pura shehr sunssan hojata hai. Koi mai ka laal apni dukaan khol ke nahin beth sakta, gali mohallon ke Karkun dukanain bund karane aajate hain. Tanzeemi power qabil e rashk hone ka muzahira uss din bhi nazar aya jab Imran Farooq ki mayyat lai gai.

Having said all the above for ‘Malik e Kull’ and ‘Aala Tanzeemi power’, why MQM workers and leaders were unable to stop all the killing and jallao gherao in their own areas??? How could it happen ke Janab Altaf Hussain ke hukm pe muzahireen ke saath jalao gherao karne wale aur goliyan chalane wale bhi gharon ko chale gae???

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@ OP,
your question can only be answered the leader of MQM, PPP and ANP, none of them wants to answer this question and reason is very simple, the basis of their politics is one the count of dead-bodies... they don't care who dies, what would the orphans, the widow or the parents of the dead one will do ( it is none of their business) they only know to kill... no matter what, they will kill until they get their personal goal achieved, be it some political gain, some show of power or just somebody wants to remain in news headline or may be because some foreign powers have given these leaders a particular task...

The recent killing and killings before in Karachi, i don't know how it is different from terrorist activities of the Taliban, don't they do the same, don't they have the same logic??? they say that they are fighting for the religious rights and believes and in this fight it is necessary for them to kill, whereas our brothers are being shot dead by the workers of MQM, ANP and PPP just for the reason that few have different color of skin...

The most traumatic part is, after getting their loved one kills, we still hail Zardari, Altaf and Asfand yar wali... the day we declare them the reason for the death of these people... will be the beginning of the end for the "LashooN key Siaysat"

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The answer is both yes and no. Yes, because racialists, and lets admit the majority of our people (all ethnicities) are intolerant, and they will think twice before attacking any particular community. No, for the obvious reason, the very tragic death and destruction to property.

I was at a wedding yesterday, and a Tehreek Insaaf guy I know was there. He usually mouths off tirades against Urdu speakers, and how superior the Punjabis are. He said Imran has issued notices no more mention of the word tora and any other insults to Muhajirs. There rallies in Manchester and Slough were full of anti Urdu speaking slogans and a dreams of a golden Punjab. Now with this incident, people like Imran Khan as well as ANP and Jeay Sindh will be more careful.

My advice, respect us and we will respect you.

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So are you going to kill that TI leader or you are going to kill some other Punjabi just because some PTI leader said something???

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THEY ALL ARE A BUNCH OF SCRE UPS .. CANT DO POLITICS SO THEY PLAY WITH PEOPLES LIVES .. AND I GOT UK TO BLAME FOR PARTIAL REASON AS THE WEST WANT PAKISTAN DESTROYED .. HENCE ALTAAFA IS BEING HARBORED AND BRAIN WASHED FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE SO WHEN OR IF HE BECOMES IN POWER .. UK WILL DICTATE AND HIM LIKE A LUNATIC HE IS .. WILL OBLIGE ..AND SO MAYBE AT THIS INCIDENT .. HE REPLIED THE NEXT EVENING COS HE NEEDED DICTATION... AND SO I THINK ITS THE SAME WITH THE REST .. AND PERSONALLY Z MIRZA IS JUST ANOTHER PUPPET

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Seems possible!

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Its enlightening to see your metamorphosis from a sensible person in ur previous nick to a terrorist supporter and gleeing on killings of innocent people. You are no different than Nirender Moodi.

And dont try to portray the usual victim rona dhona. Which community is not mouthed off, i daily hear urdu speakers calling Punjabis Dugga and Pathans akhroot and telling filthy jokes about other communities. Does this mean we should pick gun and kill 10-15 urdu speakers anytime one says such a thing.

My advice to you is you have already caused a lot of blood shed by your fascist behavior and most of it has been urdu speakers themselves, stop it before it gets any worse.

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And your man Hakeemullah Mahsud is such a defender of the nation.

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Chaudry Sahib,

If you read the post correctly, I said the deaths were tragic, and the destruction of property unacceptable. All this talk of Urdu speakers calling Punjabis Dhagga or Pathan akhrot is typical ISI and establishment propaganda. We are a tolerant culture, and respect other cultures. Name calling humare tehzib he mein nahin. The Gunga Yamuna tehzib was based on mutual tolerance and understanding. Now I accept some young hot heads have forgotten what our phurke taught us. But we are not a culture that produces jirgas, honour killings and karo kari. To pick up intolerance, we have great teachers like Mirza Sahib. You say we have caused bloodshed, for the record no one in my family owns guns. A few surgeon, one two working in the Silicon valley, lawyers and accountants, but no gandasa weilders in my family.

From now on the likes of Shahi Syed, Palijo and Imran Khan will think twice before mouthing off anti Urdu speakers tirades. And that is the only good thing that has come from this very sorry episode.

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Ji! Hum bhool gae re her baat magar… **young hot heads **of MQM nahin bhoolai

Yaad aata hai mujhe wo guzra zamaana
Karachi ki thi deevarain aur Imran ka fasaana!

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Bhai Sahib, when did I say kill Imran or even Mirza. The point is some politicians such as Imran, the ANP and Sindhi nationalist attack the entire the Urdu speaking community, instead of a political party. Its your democratic right to attack MQM, but not Urdu speakers. PTI supporters often cross that boundary. My PTI guy said that they have strict instruction to control their supporters, who often make derogatory statements against Urdu speakers. If Imran has taken steps to curb them, then it is a positive thing. Lets end it at that. Mirza has apologized, and its time to forgive. Calling a community tora and cracking jokes at their expense, which seems to be pretty standard among upper middle class professional Punjabis is unfortunate. We might have come nunge and bhoke, but we have a great cultural heritage, and you need to respect it. Period.

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^ lol whats funny is mqmers talk about the "imaginary" incidents of imran talking about 'urdu ishpeakers' yet are selectively blind and impervious of the MQM dons pretty much mouthing off every other ethnicity on a daily basis on major television networks (videos readily available on youtube). They are no where to be found when their MQM nazims beat up women or abuse them in hospitals and call them paghal ke bachey.

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Even in buses in england these idiots fantasize about altaf: