I admit what the UN and US did was wrong but does it mean that you take innocent people in an airplane and run into a building full of innocent people.
If thats your way of taking revenge then you must be a one drunk guy.
If you want to go to Bush's house and blow it up, I will be more likely help you but why bother killing people who had no part in this.
Alibeta is respecting the nation of US not Bush.
You don't see him starting a thread call god bless Bush or UN.
And now don't call me a Kafir because I'm saying something that you think a non-muslim would say.
Open up your mind.
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
**I admit what the UN and US did was wrong but does it mean that you take innocent people in an airplane and run into a building full of innocent people.
If thats your way of taking revenge then you must be a one drunk guy.
If you want to go to Bush's house and blow it up, I will be more likely help you but why bother killing people who had no part in this.
Alibeta is respecting the nation of US not Bush.
You don't see him starting a thread call god bless Bush or UN.
And now don't call me a Kafir because I'm saying something that you think a non-muslim would say.
Open up your mind.
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what do u think we should do ??? maybe go to the UN .. yeah they would give out resolution ... but would it matter .. i dont think soo ... so then what should we do?? maybe get aa few thousand more muslims killed ... yeah thats right .. i mean who cares .. 500,000 already died and its "acceptable" so whats the problem with killing 500,000 more ... bring it on !!!
Once again you are avoiding what I said, I admit the fact what happend to Iraqis and Palestine, but you are not talking about what I said about killing innocent lives.
Leslie Stahl, CBS Anchorman: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And -- and you know, is the price worth it?"
Madeline Albright, Former US Secretary of State: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it."
First of all, please do not make assumptions that muslims did 9/11 attacks. What proof do you have to support your arguement? You’re one of those who has been attracted by the american propaganda and you believe what they say.
Even some americans themselves do not believe the american media. They are blaming muslims for 9/11 attacks and have almost killed close to a million muslims in the name of terror and not stating the real purpose for the bombing in afghanistan which obviously is to finish the islamic faith!
You do not get my point! Tell me this:
“If they have the right to kill our innocent people, why dont we have the right to kill their innocent people”.
They have killed 2 million in Iraq and close to a million in afghanistan and they admit its worht it. Yet on 9/11, less than 3000 people died and they blamed muslims.
Please dude, there is a difference between 3000 and 3 million! 3 million muslims died just for the price for 3000 people?
Why do you think that a muslims life is less worth it than a non-muslims life?
Now see the difference? Like I said before, “Wake up before it’s too late”!
Do not believe what they say! They just wanna tell the world that muslims are terrorists and killing them is worth it. And you happen to be one of them who actually support them! Sad but true!
P.S Didn’t call you a kaffir or any name that might have offended you.
Do not get offended by any of this since it’s all facts.
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Originally posted by Maniac:
**Here is the exact quote
Leslie Stahl, CBS Anchorman: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And -- and you know, is the price worth it?"
Madeline Albright, Former US Secretary of State: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it."**
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The article you provided doesn't anywhere say the who did it or who didn't. It talks about Israel and its terrorist acts in mid east which I agree with 100%.
So you are saying that they killed you 3 million muslims than you have the right to go and kill their people.
Thats means we Muslims are sinking to their pathetic levels and killing their innocent people like cowards.
That is wrong.
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
**The article you provided doesn't anywhere say the who did it or who didn't. It talks about Israel and its terrorist acts in mid east which I agree with 100%.
So you are saying that they killed you 3 million muslims than you have the right to go and kill their people.
Thats means we Muslims are sinking to their pathetic levels and killing their innocent people like cowards.
That is wrong.
As far as who did it or didn't, you maybe right.
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We have no other option! Do you think we can just stand and watch them kill our innocent people? We need to defend to ourselves. Killing their innocent people is the only way they'll see how it feels.
That's the only way we can defend ourselves currently.
They have killed our 3 million muslims and they admit that it was good But they claim that we have killed their less than 3000 people and yet we muslims deny it which is the truth!
Ukhalil11- There are certain things that seperate muslims from non muslims. One of those is that we donot kill innocent civilians who really havnt done much to harm us.
Killing innocent civilians is not permissible in islam, and hence i dont believe Weapons of Mass Destruction are permissible in islam either.
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Originally posted by Maniac:
**Ukhalil11- There are certain things that seperate muslims from non muslims. One of those is that we donot kill innocent civilians who really havnt done much to harm us.
Killing innocent civilians is not permissible in islam, and hence i dont believe Weapons of Mass Destruction are permissible in islam either.
Allah knows best.**
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True! But you still do not understand what I am trying to say.
The thing is that they have killed so many of our muslims brothers who haven' done any harm to them and they publicly say it's worth killing us muslims.
Now tell me, how can we defend ourselves?
By killing their innocent people is the only way to defend our selves and its the only way they will learn.
Now 9/11 attacks were horrible but if america continues killing muslims and continues doing what it wants, then there will be attacks similar to 9/11.
That is the only way they will learn!
What your words are telling me that they can kill as many as muslims as they want and we dont do nothing to harm them back.
Really shows you people's Imaan, its true Quran said the Jews and Christians aren't friends to Islam but it doesn't tell us to go kill them.
How is killing the inocent defending ourselves, send your suicide bombers to Sharone or run planes into the white house why do it to people who haven't done anything, killling them will more anger them and they will kill your more Muslim brothers.
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
**Really shows you people's Imaan, its true Quran said the Jews and Christians aren't friends to Islam but it doesn't tell us to go kill them.
How is killing the inocent defending ourselves, send your suicide bombers to Sharone or run planes into the white house why do it to people who haven't done anything, killling them will more anger them and they will kill your more Muslim brothers.
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True... I get your point but listen, that's the only way they are gonna learn!
Are you telling me that we can just stand and watch them kill our brothers and yet not do anything to defend ourselves?
They kill our innocent people... and we dont have the right to kill their innocent people since because of our muslim leaders they are dieing!
I mean what is musharraf doing? Helping the american forces to kill more taliban/al-qaeda mujahideens.
And What is the ARab world doing to help the palestinians? NOTHING!
Personally I don't think anything is worth the deaths of 500,000 children. It is not acceptable in any way.
Not trying to take the easy way out, but what do you really think I can do about the policies of the American government? As an American I can write letters to the government, saying that I am against sanctions on Iraq, and bombing of Iraq until my fingers bleed, but they aren't going to change their ploicies.
I have written a large number of e-mails on this subject and many others, and have yet to recieve one reply. So please tell me, what I am meant to do? Also please tell me, how 911 changed anything to the good?
Brenda
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!
[This message has been edited by bcsm57 (edited May 14, 2002).]