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Reporting about price hike was just an example he picked. Isn’t it?
But you are making it look like as if it happened just the way that guy said.

Ah, so now KK is a face of the media. Why only mention him? Do you know think all media is controlled by Urdu speaking people?
Problem is that Sindhis have not seen such massacres happening to themselves, but it happens every few years in Karachi. The media reported to that incidence the way they reported earlier incidences and then moved on.

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So how do you look at statements of Altaf Hussain 'Hum ne bhi chooriyan nahin pehn rakhin' and more relevant how do you see the people in Muhajir Sooba tehreek rallies saying 'Hum ne Pakistan banae ke liye qurbaniyan di thin, aur sooba banae ke liye bhi kisi cheez se gurez nahin karenge'.

Division is not a non-serious issue. It does ignite the emotions of people and the statements given in empotions should not be taken 100% on the face value. BTW, whenever, Palejo and others talk of the issue they do refer to the relationship and bhai chara that have been developed between communities over the period. They say things about bloodshed only when anyone tries to Divide the land. So its an emotional statement said in reaction to an instigation.

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lets just make a case that mqm wants new province. now what is the strategy of PPP?

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I think you should watch program at least last five minutes, where he covered what was mainstream media reporting when Sindhi media was mourning on deaths in the rally.

KK is just the example given by Talat for his misreporting death of Ghazala Siddiqui as a passerby. There is no talk about who control the media and neither my point was aginst Urdu speaking people which you got god knows from which part of my post :smack:

BTW Sindhis are also the stakeholders in Karachi and Sindhi media covers every issue of Karachi and show their perspective independently. I myself observe that a rainy day in Karachi and Veena Maliks scandals get more coverage on mainstream media than this issue :bummer:

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PPP will definitely oppose to keep its vote bank intact. If PPP by any chance tries to be smart, they not only will loose their vote bank, but their properties in Sindh too. Its a very emotional matter, which should not be taken lightly.

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but whole thing start from the division of punjab, and it is providing reason to MQM to use it for future politics. :chai:

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Thanks for sharing sentiments of Sindhis on this brutal murder of mqm killers. This will definitely result in more hatred and misunderstanding among Sindhis and Muhajirs.

Pushing Sindhis to wall will benefit no one. The ancestors of racists progeny saw break up of Pakistan in 1971. I am afraid history of further break up will result if this nonsense is not stopped immediately. Like Bengalis, Sindhis are suffering since partition for giving 100% votes in creation of Pakistan. Sindhis were better of while still part of India before partition.

Missing Sindhi leader found dead | The Nation

**HYDERABAD - After 45 days of mysterious death of Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz Chairman Bashir Khan Qureshi, the bullet-riddled body of another nationalist leader Muzaffar Bhutto was found stuffed in a gunny bag near Bukhari village in the limits of Hatri Police Station here on Tuesday.

Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz (JSMM) Central Secretary General Muzaffar Bhutto was among the missing persons of Sindh, as he was kidnapped from National Highway near Saeedabad Town on February 25 last year.

The family members had been staging demonstrations and a petition had also been filed in the Sindh High Court for recovery of Muzaffar. The slain leader has left a widow, two sons and a daughter.

The body was brought to Civil Hospital Hyderabad by some people who disappeared after leaving the body. Later, the relatives identified the body.

The body was later sent to Sehwan, his hometown, where he would be laid to rest.

It may be mentioned that mystery still shrouds the death of Bashir Khan who passed away early on April 6 near Sakrand Town of Nawabshah district on the way from hometown Ratodero to Karachi. The Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz leadership suspected poisoning Khan to death.

The nationalist organisations had been agitating for conducting the analysis of viscera by international experts, which the former Home Minister Manzoor Wasan had agreed but he was sent abroad reportedly on forced leave.

The Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz leadership contended that Khan was targeted after he organised a successful public rally in Karachi on March 23.

The reports of death of Muzaffar sparked reaction in different cities and towns of Sindh.

In Qasimabad, Hyderabad and Kotri, the JSMM activists resorted to aerial firing after which the shops and other businesses were closed.

In Dokri Town, three persons sustained injuries when the enraged people started firing. One of the injured Muhammad Zada succumbed to injuries at the hospital. The Larkana was also completely shut after the news spread in the area. The aerial firing was also reported from different areas. Similarly, all the commercial activities came to standstill in Nawabshah, Sakrand and Qazi Ahmed towns where the aerial firing created panic. Demonstrations were also held at different places. All the shops at Sakrand Road, Hospital Road, Moni Bazaar, Chakra Bazaar, Masjid Road, Liaquat Market and other areas were shut.

The Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz workers alleged that secret agencies were involved in killing of their leader.

Meanwhile, Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz Vice Chairman Zain Bhutto condemned the murder of Muzaffar Bhutto.

Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz Acting Chairman Dr Niaz Kalani has announced strike in Sindh on Wednesday (today) to condemn the murder of nationalist leader, demanding government arrest the killers of the leader.**

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You are right, but some how people in Punjab are not that much emotional for Saraiki Sooba, but situation in Sindh is dangerous, which is very much evident from the recent events.

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sachay: bad news, but you are so wrong. it could be PPP too behind it.

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Everyone knows the division of Sindh is impossible.

There are too many people opposed to this to make it possible -all Sindhis, and the many, many non-mohajir areas of Karachi.

The biggest terrorists in Pakistan have already tried and failed.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

VIEW: Decapitating Sindh?

Usually, Karachi is identified with red, the colour of the blood of those unsung and unknown peddlers, hawkers, drivers, plumbers and shopkeepers, who are felled every day by a most efficient killing machine that is running round the clock in the metropolis, under the eyes of the law enforcement agencies, and in absolute disregard of, if not connivance with, the political masters of the city and the province. But these days, the city’s new identity is black and red; the black of the graffiti covered walls and public spaces demanding a new mohajir province, and the red of those who have been killed and injured while protesting the division of the province.

Leaving aside the constitutional, historical and moral bases of the mohajir province, even for practical reasons, such a demand seems nothing more than a fantasy because Sindh is a province whose cities and towns host the interspersed communities of the Sindhi and Urdu-speaking people, among others, and whose metropolis stands practically compartmentalised into ethnically demarcated political arenas. Any idea of carving out a neat ethnic political entity out of this jumbled-up demography would be nothing but pushing the province into an unceasing civil war, and the country to the brink of an abyss. Yet, it must be answered: why a mohajir province? Is it for ‘identity’ or socio-economic and political assertion?

If it were ‘identity’, then it would negate the mohajirs’ ‘Pakistani identity’, which, at least, the elder Urdu-speaking generations have upheld on the strength of their sacrifices for an ‘Islamic’ Pakistan. Indeed, the majority of the Urdu-speaking electorate in Sindh voted for the Islamists, the exponents of Pakistani identity, until the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM) emerged as a muscular, ethnic flag-bearer of the Urdu-speaking community. But the MQM’s strong-arm politics soon brought it into conflict with other ethnic groups, the Islamists, the mainstream Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and even the state apparatus. Initially, the Sindhi nationalists perceived it as their ally against the Punjab-dominated centre, but later fell out with it.

However, after facing a massive crackdown by the state machinery and a rising counter-identity (violent) resistance from the Sindhi-speaking, Punjabi, Pathan and Baloch people, the MQM changed its ethnic tack and declared itself a ‘national’ party, Muttahida Qaumi Movement. However, the recent reassertion of mohajir identity has put the MQM’s ‘denunciation’ of ethnic politics to test. It is not ‘officially’ espousing the mohajir province. However, the areas under its influence are splashed with mohajir province slogans and some of its leaders are showing sympathy for the new province in their TV talk shows.

Indeed, a senior party leader and provincial minister called the division of Sindh a ‘fait accompli’, referring to the violence and loss of lives that took place in Karachi in the wake of an attack on the Love Sindh rally. It was organised by the Awami Tehrik of Ayaz Latif Palijo and attended by a host of MQM’s local rivals — the Awami National Party, the PML-N, Sindhi nationalists and Liyari Amn Committee. But the proponents of the new province must factor in the changing demographics and socio- psychological perspectives in Sindh. On the one hand, the old agro-based relations are disintegrating, releasing the surplus populace, which is taking to the cities, including Karachi. On the other, a sizeable number of the Sindhi-speaking middle-class — professionals, entrepreneurs, public servants, NGOs, rights activists, media, writers, academics and political forces — has also surfaced over the urban landscape of Sindh.

Therefore a quest for the ‘ownership’ of Sindh’s physical and political space is writ large upon the face of the emerging Sindhi-speaking Sindh. It is unhappy with the ‘folly’ of the earlier generations that lost urban Sindh to outsiders in the spirit of religious bonhomie and humanitarianism. And it is despondent with the PPP’s leadership for ‘betraying’ its electorate in Sindh. Therefore, many of the unemployed and socially oppressed youths are turning to a nationalistic narrative. It sees Sindh as receiving a raw deal from a state that has snatched its towns and cities, grabbed its natural resources, denied it economic and social dividends, and punished its people for their secular and pacifist beliefs, benefiting those who have taken up arms in the towns and metropolis.

Juxtaposed to this view is the one that emphasises the increasing sense of deprivation among the mohajirs, and hence, demands for a mohajir province. It is contended that the socio-political realities of urban Sindh, once dominated by the Urdu-speaking populace, are turning against them as now they have to compete with a host of other contenders to the city’s commercial, industrial, corporate and capital markets. They feel they are no more enjoying an economic, social and political leverage over the state despite the fact that Karachi contributes three-fourths of the revenues to the exchequer. There is no doubt that the Urdu-speaking youth is also facing a range of civic and economic problems, including housing, transport, and employment issues. But here lies the rub.

Karachi has a history of illegal immigrants — Afghans, Iranians, Bengalis, Biharis and Burmese and so on. But the current crisis began in Karachi during General Ziaul Haq’s martial law when ethnic riots occurred. The situation grew worse during General Musharraf’s rule (MQM was in government), when a huge swell of economic migrants and war-displaced populace belonging to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, south Punjab and northern Sindh swept Karachi’s labour markets and physical space. Obviously, the MQM, which then dominated the city government and much of the province, ignored this demographic shift in a city that needed cheap labour to run its developmental projects and commercial and industrial engines.

But with Musharraf’s exit and the MQM’s loss of city government, a tug-of-war ensued between the new and the old stakeholders to Karachi’s political space, causing perpetual violence, and now the demand for a province. But the proposed ‘decapitation’ of Sindh is fraught with disaster. With its industrial south, agrarian north, logistically significant east and resource-rich central-west, neither the province is divisible geographically, nor its people, who have lived here for centuries, can be rent asunder socio-politically. Yes, the country would surely slide into an irretrievable abyss.

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Why the representatives middul class educated people do not understand this? They have killed innocent lady who was in the procession just for sake of unity of province. The reaction will be very severe unless those mqm killers are surrendered to authorities for killing the brave daughter of Sindh and other innocent people.

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PPP is not behind this. If it is proved that PPP is involved, Sindhis will revolt against PPP and Pakistan. Enough is Enough.

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If MQM is such a bad party (according to you), then why PPP standing behind MQM. :D

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I agree with you. Many PPP members are unhappy with Zardari about this.

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If this nonsense is not stopped, either PPP has to parted away from mqm or face Sindhis wrath in the elections.

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Cooperation depends on future composition of party positions in the parliament.
PPP can part ways from MQM only if PPP can make the government survive without it. How will they do their corruption, which they consider their right, if not in government?!

I know very well that while** Sindhi nationalist parties like Jeay Sindh** don't have much representation in parliament, they still enjoy widespread support in Sindh. People usually don't vote for them because PPP is there. But if PPP is out of the picture then they will definitely support nationalists.
*That will be the end of PPP.
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I hope Pakistan can one day get rid of PPP. At this moment PPP has full control over Pakistan politics. If things don't change then even the next government will be that of PPP.

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dont worry, no gov't could be established in islamabad without the consent of MQM disregard of any politcal force PPP/PML/PTI in power :D

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And the reaction of that reaction will be severe as well.

This rally was targeted by terrorists from Urdu speaking people because the rally organizers had threatened bloodshed if this demand of new province was not stopped.

Why do outwardly educated lot of people think like brutes?

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No they didn't.

It was a peaceful rally, don't making excuses for the killings.

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On the same token, Pakistan will get rid of mqm killers and declare them as terrorists.