Re: Very complicated & weird proposal experience..need girls advice
How do you not lose respect her after all this let alone being smitten by her looks! (This doesn’t mean you’re not to blame in all this)
This is a blow to your ego since she rejected you when you fell for her…hence difficult for you to let go.
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Now that’s really funny. You asked the girls for advice but when they showed you the mirror, you jumped in the boat of only guy who defended you to save your ass.
How convenient.
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Probably. #noregrets](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=noregrets)
I’m not certain what the point is.
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There is absolutely no problem discussing and sharing expectations during the initial talks. Things like “If we become engaged/married, would you give up XYZ for me?” etc. But asking someone to change things RIGHT NOW…while there is no formal commitment at all seems ridiculous to me.
But then again, a guy who’s ok with watching a adult video with a girl 3 weeks after chatting with her and then taking the high moral ground is also ridiculous.
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Just to add, there’s no guys’ perspective or girls’ perspective. Its just you can’t see the mirror.
P.S) I am a guy myself but I dont agree to your or @strangeworld perspective.
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The point is when you see another human being in misery you help that person get out of it. Not leave that person to rust even more.
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Simple. He is trying to prove his point by being personal.
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Nope, no reason spend my time/energy to come up with a “killing argument”. You did a great job explaining your views. Your conclusions are perfectly reasonable and your ability to stay objective is truly impressive.
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Who’s asking you to agree?
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Yeah, uncommitted people can’t ask right here, right now type things. I would rather probe the question as would you be willing to even after marriage. Its a classic abuser tactic to up the abuse after marriage and I would be too worried about being an emotional abuser lol!
And yeah, I’m not even judging the guy but if we’re going to start judging the girl then he’s fair game because actions speak louder than words. That’s the rule of life, buddy.
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Am I suppose to thank you here?
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no one here calling the girl innocent and blaming him but just telling him that he’s not the victim.
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Because when people like you don’t understand the sensitivity of the topic and how bad that could have been for that girl. Then you need to give some personal examples so they can relate to themselves in order to understand the situation and comprehend the point of view.
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I didn’t jump in anyones boat. All I said was it was interesting to see the difference between the female perspective vs. the male perspective. I thanked him for his perspective and commented that other guy’s have similar perspectives. I really appreciated all the females perspectives also–I’m going to have to adjust myself going forward because clearly girls are viewing me as controlling and/or conservative and thats not how I want to be viewed. I like hearing different perspectives.
A lot of guys are huge jerks to girls..so I was agreeing with him on that. All girls know that quite well. So I’m sure we can all agree on that.
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[mod] **Certain posts on this thread are getting a bit too personal. Please consider this a warning for EVERYONE. We don’t all have to agree with one another. And no amount of personal attacks is going to change another person’s view.
Thank you. ** [/mod]
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yeah thats not the point of the original post–i never said im the victim and shes to blame alone, in fact i took blame many times in my original post, I want to know how other girls viewed this situation, what I did wrong, and if people have any advice for me going forward, thats all.
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^ This x 100. Thank you! I’m not sure why certain people think that the girl is getting support from anyone here.
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Even if girl is getting support from some members, what is the problem? Everyone can give different reason and picture has two sides too… 
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Don’t worry brother, keep looking, inshAllah you will find a great girl.
Don’t necessarily focus on finding a doctor. Doctors even in Pak are notorious in that they always want to marry a doctor…
And don’t worry about the religious/personality, etc. There are people/girls/guys that follow their religion and are moderate but good muslims, not ones going over the limit (this world calls them modern, “open-minded”, etc).
Keep searching inshallah you will find suitable partner.
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Ok so you’ve been reading all the posts with various views/opinions about this. Knowing what you know now…what do YOU think you did wrong? And next time you are introduced to a girl for rishta purposes, what do you plan on doing differently?