Vaccinations/meds and their Halal-ity

My kids get their flu vaccinations every year without fail. I recently heard that the common influenza vaccine contains non halal gelatin and the lady who told me also said that since this isn’t a life-death situation or medical treatment but just prevention we should avoid it.

What are your views on this and other medications that contain such ingredients (eg cough syrups and alcohol)?

yeah it is not life death situation but kids do have a weak immune system and they do catch flu pretty easily especially in the flu season. Also, its not like you are having it for fun but purely medical purposes.

ps. you can make your own flu vaccine :smiley:

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Is this the same lady who said Harry Potter is haraam?? :5:

:hmmm: IMHO, if it’s for the sake for your health, then it’s permissible. Just like pork is prohibited for Muslims (and Jews) for consumption, but this rule is overruled when it comes to preservation of human life…i.e it has been said that a pig’s heart valve for heart disease is permissible.

Is influenza considered life and death to you? Ask yourself…is the flu injection a necessity…are there any other alternatives? In terms of people who are at a high risk (old people, pregnant women, children) and their immune systems, i’d think it was a necessity…cos it **can **be a matter of life and death.

And to be honest, why stop at influenza…there are many viral vaccines which need to be grown on living cells. Rubella, mumps, rabies, Hep A, Japanese encephalitis, to name a few, use cell lines, involving taking cells from an aborted baby or an animal and growing them in a lab…

(OK there is more to that; the purification process removes traces of foetal cells…)

But please, tell the lady the first part…cos that’s what she’s doing…sharing info without knowing the full facts.

You do things with a good intention… and in the end, Allah knows best.

For vitamins I can say that my kids don’t take gummy bears or any other brand which has gelatin in it.But vaccination is important; infants need them. And BTW if our vaccination card is not completed what will happen when they will go to school.:hmmm: As far as I remember schools do ask for vaccination and if you don’t complete it it will be hard for a child to get in the school. :hmmm:

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Vaccinations are important.

As Lusi said, children have a weaker immune system…is it right to hold back a vaccine because it has gelatin in it when you know this?

Its not being consumed for fun, only for medical purposes. Why would anyone make a big deal out of that? :hmmm:

My views- you should stop hanging out or dealing with these ladies, there was some other dunce who was giving you some lame advise a few months ago..people who give such advise, when they are in a situation themselves then everything becomes halal very quickly.

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i dont give my kids flu shots

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is this the same lady who says bras are haram? :D

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It's not just flu vaccination. It's a whole bunch of vaccination. So what, we all stop taking them? Does no one remember the world when small pox and black plague ran rampant?

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I avoid cough medicines with alcohol in-and suffer in the long run as I use the alternative 'desi treatment' of a spoonful of honey covered in crushed black peppers.

I dunno, to me kids need all the help they can get to avoid nasty germs and illnesses so I would be more likely to get my kids vaccinated (could be because I'm diabetic and I know how crap things get when you do fall ill). I've never really spoken about this subject with a qualified person (possibly an Alimah?). I wonder if cough syrup in Muslim countries contains alcohol? I'd be less likely to check the label there too (I'd assume it's safe if it wasn't an import and was made in the country).

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even in islam it is permissible for medicinal purposes so .... my advice keerhiyan paahe na lagao...i think we human beings are more nit picky than god himself lol

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

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LOL yahhhh there was something like that :smiley:

Anyway coming back to the topic… :chai:

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Nik, another pov is that Muslims are forbidden to eat **pork and pork products. Theres nothing in the Koran that forbids **injecting pork products.

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Some would say that when we know pork is haram, why would we inject our kids with it? Why would we intentionally do that to them????

I know medically speaking it MIGHT be considered okay to do but what did our fathers and grandfathers do? Did they get vaccines? Is there a way to avoid this so we dont consume gelatin even medically as it is haram for us?

time to set up some zabeeha halal vaccine shops.
add to my portfolio of taveez and mantar jantar :halo:

Well I wish we can at least try to avoid PORK vaccines it feels so disgusted that you have PORK running in your body.
PS. A question if you are a grown adult you would prefer to die rather eating PORK?

My mom and dad got vaccinations, as soon as they were available. Did their fathers get them? I dunno. But I'm thinking, if they had, they might be alive for a little while longer. I mean sure everyone has to die, but isn't it our responsibility as human beings to take care of ourselves, to take care of the gift that Allah's given us, the complete, perfect body that He's given us? If humans used the brain that He's given us, and we've used that gift, that knowledge to curb or eradicate a vicious problem, isn't it our responsibility to use that tool?

What we should be doing is asking for alternatives to potential haram ingredients in the vaccination if, we feel squeamish or have doubts about them, instead of thoo thoo'ing everything and creating viruses and bacteria that can show up, more powerful than before and create a world where it was ok to die of something as insignificant as a microbe.

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I dunno where people come out with baseless ideas :smack: So far I havent read of or been told by any senior scholars that non halalthat is for medicinal purpose is prohibited to us Muslims.

The prohibitions are on consuming them as food and larger chunks. Medicine is allowed … and when someone says its not , ask them to show you a hadees or a fatwa , I am sure they wont be able to find them:snooty:

So if i cut up a bacon sandwich into itsy bitsy small chunks, it’s permissible by the Book?

Woohoo!! :smiley: