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I intend to ingore your posts from now on. Your posts no matter in which forum are not worth reading.
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you say tht to every member who defend islam..actually u have no answer to anybody...again my advice is to make ur religion "good" and then care abt master of all religion " islam "
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*Originally posted by Arvind: * I intend to ingore your posts from now on. Your posts no matter in which forum are not worth reading.
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Neither I asked you to read my posts neither I forced you to. It's your choice. Your a free man.
Let me be me, and you can be yourslef brother.
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*Originally posted by chalna: *
you say tht to every member who defend islam..actually u have no answer to anybody...again my advice is to make ur religion "good" and then care abt master of all religion " islam "
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I did not mean to cut in Arvind but,,,,,
Chalna, Do you know what common sense is??? the most stupid thing to say is "Mine is better than your's". If you read Quran you will find numerous verses TELLING muslims to kill non-muslims for no reason other than their being non-muslim. How can one beleive in or respect a God who is telling minority of HIS creation to eliminate the majority of HIS creation. Sharia, which is based on the Book simply can not be applied in todays mixed environment for it is full of contradictions.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * If you read Quran you will find numerous verses TELLING muslims to kill non-muslims for no reason other than their being non-muslim.
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If that was true, you wouldn't had been alive nor your kind would had been alive for the last 14 centuries.
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*Originally posted by PakistaniDragon: *
If that was true, you wouldn't had been alive nor your kind would had been alive for the last 14 centuries.
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Dear you did try to follow Quran and you still are trying,, But it seems that it is not quite working. I have nothing against you Dragon. after all I was born Muslim.
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*Originally posted by Sher: *
Dear you did try to follow Quran and you still are trying,, But it seems that it is not quite working. I have nothing against you Dragon. after all I was born Muslim.
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hahahaha....man u need brain to understand quran..did u eva read quran??/did u.....huh...go and drink ur wine...dont no where is faisal who is not editing ur post....people like u need to be destruct yes vanish....u say quran says to kill non muslims if tht quran really means then today there would have no non muslims in the world...is not tht????
quran says to kill those who attack ur prosperity property and ur people...islam is the only religion who gives full rights to non muslims....and ya mr sher common sense is not common in ur personality..if islam was not according to sense then check out msgs of various big personalities of diff fields...again go and read quran..and u said u was born muslim and now u r OUT OF ISLAM AND PEOPLE LIKE U SHOULD BE KILLED
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*Originally posted by chalna: *
hahahaha....man u need brain to understand quran..did u eva read quran??/did u.....huh...go and drink ur wine...dont no where is faisal who is not editing ur post....people like u need to be destruct yes vanish....u say quran says to kill non muslims if tht quran really means then today there would have no non muslims in the world...is not tht????
quran says to kill those who attack ur prosperity property and ur people...islam is the only religion who gives full rights to non muslims....and ya mr sher common sense is not common in ur personality..if islam was not according to sense then check out msgs of various big personalities of diff fields...again go and read quran..and u said u was born muslim and now u r OUT OF ISLAM AND PEOPLE LIKE U SHOULD BE KILLED
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You realy make me laugh Chalna... is that what you beleive in,, kill people who have different veiws than your's? C'mon. I read this and comment on it But don't get offeneded cos I don't mean that.
What is the punishment for adultery? Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women) [24:2], "confine them to houses until death do claim them (lifelong house arrest - for the women) [4:15]. For men: "If they repent and amend, leave them alone" [4:16]. 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4. And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24 but different in Sura 4?
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*Originally posted by Sher: * Dear you did try to follow Quran and you still are trying,, But it seems that it is not quite working. I have nothing against you Dragon.
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Whats' not working? I'm not expecting any Miracles. I'm not doing a favour to God.
He says in the Qur'an, "I created man and demon only to worship me". So that's what I do. I worship Him, thank Him, praise Him and seek His help when I need it. It's upto Him how He treats me, He created me so i'm just His slave.
I don't ask Him to make me the richest man in the world, or some kind of a warrior or a leader. I ask Him to keep me on the rightious path.
I'm worshipping Allah Almighty, so that he'll save from me from the Chastisement of the Grave, Ressurection Day and the Fire. And allow me to enter Janat-ul-Firdaws with the Pios and the Guided people.
What's your mission in life... 'Oh God give me everything or I won't believe in you?'
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*Originally posted by PakistaniDragon: *
Whats' not working? I'm not expecting any Miracles. I'm not doing a favour to God.
He says in the Qur'an, "I created man and demon only to worship me". So that's what I do. I worship Him, thank Him, praise Him and seek His help when I need it. It's upto Him how He treats me, He created me so i'm just His slave.
I don't ask Him to make me the richest man in the world, or some kind of a warrior or a leader. I ask Him to keep me on the rightious path.
I'm worshipping Allah Almighty, so that he'll save from me from the Chastisement of the Grave, Ressurection Day and the Fire. And allow me to enter Janat-ul-Firdaws with the Pios and the Guided people.
What's your mission in life... 'Oh God give me everything or I won't believe in you?'
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I do respect you beleive in Allah and religion(Islam) I have nothing against you or anybody in this forum, I Mean it. All I am trying to say is that you have to rid yourself of prejudice and try to litsen to what others have to say. You know that there poeople who have different veiws and that does not neccesarily mean that others are wrong. I hope you understand what I am saying here. when I ask a question I don't mean to mock, it is just question and it should be taken as so.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * hahahaha....
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Funny eh.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * man u need brain to understand quran..
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He does, but he don't want to.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * did u eva read quran??/did u.....huh...
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Propbably, which was published by non-muslim called M.Marmaduke Pickthall.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * go and drink ur wine...
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Don't dare him.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * dont no where is faisal who is not editing ur post....
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Even he needs his rest like the rest of us.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * people like u need to be destruct yes vanish....
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God has created Hell with 7 layers for different types of people.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * u say quran says to kill non muslims if tht quran really means then today there would have no non muslims in the world...is not tht????
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Question yourself, why were you and your kind spared?
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*Originally posted by chalna: * quran says to kill those who attack ur prosperity property and ur people...
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True. Every people has the right to defend themselves.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * islam is the only religion who gives full rights to non muslims....
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Yes, look at the happy Hindus, Christians and the Jews in Pakistan. Despite they number in millions, they're not being discriminated in this day and age.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * and ya mr sher common sense is not common in ur personality..
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I don't know the reason for it.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * if islam was not according to sense then check out msgs of various big personalities of diff fields...
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Everyone converts to Islam, especially the rich people.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * again go and read quran..
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Tafsir of Ibn Kathir is most understood by the Muslims all over the world.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * and u said u was born muslim
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Are you telling us the truth? Be Honest! I've never heard of a Muslim so much disagree with everything (even the tiny bits) in Islam and yet insist that he's a Muslim.
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*Originally posted by chalna: * and now u r OUT OF ISLAM AND PEOPLE LIKE U SHOULD BE KILLED
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Stop provoking people by insulting them 24/7. Nobody likes to be insulted.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * But don't get offeneded cos I don't mean that.
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This forum is for serious discussion, please don't make meaningless comments.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * What is the punishment for adultery? Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women) [24:2],
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That's also what Jesus Christ prescribed if you study Christianity. The Hindus used to burn the wife alive (and still do in sort parts of India) when the husband died. Only sane British people and the Muslims went and stopped the 10,000 YEARS OLD practice.
The Rajas used to rape alot of women in India, when the first Muslims invaded India, they married alot of these disgraced women to give them dignity and respect.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * "confine them to houses until death do claim them [4:15].
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So they don't get raped, molested, abused and degraded like in most western nations. In Thailand, 9/10 years girls (even younger sometimes) are sold into prostitutions.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * For men: "If they repent and amend, leave them alone" [4:16].
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When mentioning 'men', it means any man or woman from whole of mankind.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4.
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Eh? When your off that alcoholic influence, read the Qur'an again.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24 but different in Sura 4?
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Where? Having understanding problems again? Tut tut tut.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * All I am trying to say is that you have to rid yourself of prejudice and try to litsen to what others have to say.
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You are being allowed to take part in an Islamic forum. Yes! You are allowed to publish your racist views. Yes! I am replying to you and others are too, and everyone is correcting your discrimanatory mistakes, but your not listening to anyone but shoving your own hatered in.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * You know that there poeople who have different veiws
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Highly insulting and prejudice remrks to 1.4 billion muslims.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * and that does not neccesarily mean that others are wrong.
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It's not hard to figure out whether your right or insulting.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * I hope you understand what I am saying here.
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I understand you hate Muslims and their faith.
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*Originally posted by Sher: * when I ask a question I don't mean to mock, it is just question and it should be taken as so.
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You make insults, make accusations that i'm a killer, all my ancestors were killers and we're a threat to whole of my mankind. Yes, I can see what you want me to believe.
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*Originally posted by Sher: *
I do respect you beleive in Allah and religion(Islam) I have nothing against you or anybody in this forum, I Mean it. All I am trying to say is that you have to rid yourself of prejudice and try to litsen to what others have to say. You know that there poeople who have different veiws and that does not neccesarily mean that others are wrong. I hope you understand what I am saying here. when I ask a question I don't mean to mock, it is just question and it should be taken as so.
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sher i think you should take a good look at your own comments before you act highly moral and call others prejudice.