USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

So says my man mohan Singh, we can talk with Pakistan.

But no one should forget that 10 foot long pole that moved India, in fact came straight form the good ole USA. First USA quietly asked India to “cooperate”. When India refused, the US of A issued the travel advisory and fired a shot across India’s bow. Chidambram sahib said, my-baap kion kurtay ho yeh travel advisoryian. Hum to bohot naik Paak hain.

But the US pressure is on and India is singing.

If you all remember, USA used the same tactic on India when the Indians were all gung ho while massing 1000s of troops on Pak border. Just a hint, back then good ole Gen Powell was at the helms of State Department.

Now Hillory pulled the same weapon and Indians are singing.

US issues travel advisory, Chidambaram says India a safe place - India - The Times of India

India to talk with Pakistan

India to talk with Pakistan

File Photo. PTI
IANS First Published : 12 Jun 2009 06:59:07 PM ISTLast Updated : 12 Jun 2009 07:15:44 PM IST
NEW DELHI: Putting speculation at rest, India Friday said that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh would meet Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg next week, but clarified there would no resumption of talks till Islamabad takes tangible action against terrorists.
“They will be in the same place at the same time. They will meet, but we are not clear what sort of meeting it would be,” Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon told reporters when asked whether Manmohan Singh would meet Zardari in Yekaterinburg.

Re: USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

what is there to talk man? rishta karwani ay? email bhejo!

Re: USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

Before election " We need action, no peace talks, we will attack Pakistan if required"

After election " We want friendship, we need to resolve issues "

If elections weren't so close, Pakistan India relations would have been much better even after Mumbai attack.

Re: USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

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Putting speculation at rest, India Friday said that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh would meet Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg next week, but clarified there would no resumption of talks till Islamabad takes tangible action against terrorists.

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Contrary to selective comprehension by Pakistanis, I don't see any change in India's stance towards Pak :)

Re: USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

^^ Thori se Izzat bhi tu Bachani thi Manmohan nei...lol

Actually, they had earlier stated that the Indian govt would not meet the Pak counterparts till they acted on so called terrorists. Yet here we are months later, and no one has been arrested or tried, and Monmohan saab is of having meeting wth Zardari! lol. :D

Pls substantiate that.

AFAIK, Indian govt said peace talks would not be resumed till Pa stops cross border terrorism. That stance has not changed.

Casual/social meetings on the side at a neutral event were never talked about :)

Had not you heard that Mr.Zardari left the press meeting in a hurry ,ending the meeting ?

Re: USA "pushes", and Singh sings "Pak-Indi Bhai bhai".

People of Pakistan should read the one on one interview that Obama gave to Dawn. He has clarified in no uncertain terms his now changed stance on Kashmir which is "US is not getting into this".

Other reports, too numerous and common so I don't have to quote them here.have clearly established that the number one discussion India, USA, France or anyone else that meets with Zardari these days, is the war on terrorism and stabilizing Pakistan.

USA may be able to push Pakistan around but they can't do the same with India. Obama may not have been clear on this in the beginning but is now amply clear.He has been made to change stance on Holbrooke (limited to AfPak as opposed original proposal), Kashmir (now he has been reverted to the USA not getting into it) etc. The Israelis are pretty mad at him and strategists have told his administration to tread lot more carefully.

LOLz, Its like pot calling kettle black

Lets stick to the topic here, shall we ?

Can you substantiate that India's stance has changed ?? Otherwise, its best to shut up when you run out of intelligent arguements :)

Re: USA “pushes”, and Singh sings “Pak-Indi Bhai bhai”.

^ :hehe:

Ah! the genius changes branch again, are you having problems comprehenidng your own diatribe? I w-o-n-t be surprised.!!!

No surpirse there. Kashmir is an issue that doesnt effect America directly.

But if you think India cant be pushed around by the US, then your delusional.

And ultimately, if Americas foreign policy does not jive with the Pakistanis, then Pakistan has the same options.

Again, India should understand its place.:)

Thats probably because Manmohan sahibs nurse had to change his diapers, and Zardari couldnt be in the same room... :p

LOL… So Pakistani freedom fighters attack Mumbai and killl 200 people. Your govt is all up in arms and is barking over so called terror camps in Pak and threatening war…
Pakistan does absolutely nothing about it despite pressure from India and the US.

I guess this is what you Indians call a diplomatic victory;) Two HUNDRED dead Indians, Pakistan demonstrates thhat it doesnt give a rats arse, and now your having casual/social meetings! Even your veggie pie, who refused to shake hands with Mush had more self respect :hehe:

Usually when Indians say they wont have peace talks, it means casual meetings are also off. Certainly was the case in 2002.

I guess its not so much a change of policy as it is a complete disregad for Indian self respect:hehe:

Re: USA “pushes”, and Singh sings “Pak-Indi Bhai bhai”.

Manmohan Sigh was very blunt in his meeting with Zardari and told him in no uncertain terms that all he had come to say was that Pak should not allow its soil to be used for terrorist activities against India :slight_smile:

Poor Zardari was so sheepish that he skipped the next meeting with MMS. Looks like news media in Pak reported an different story for domestic consumption :wink:

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Manmohan Singh’s remarks unacceptable: Pak - Pakistan - World - The Times of India

ISLAMABAD: **Apparently irked by prime minister Manmohan Singh’s blunt message to president Asif Ali Zardari in front of media that Pakistan should not allow its soil for terrorism against India, Islamabad on Wednesday said his remarks were “unacceptable”. **

In a statement made in the Senate or Upper House of Parliament, minister of state for foreign affairs Malik Ahmad Khan said Singh’s comments made during his meeting with Zardari in Russia on Tuesday were unacceptable to Islamabad.

**During the meeting on the sidelines of the Shanghai](Manmohan Singh's remarks unacceptable: Pak - Times of India) Cooperation Organisation summit in Russia, Singh told Zardari: “I am extremely happy to meet you, but my mandate is limited to telling you that the territory of Pakistan must not be allowed to be used for terrorism against India.” **

Malik Ahmad Khan said Pakistan had asked the Indian government not to resort to “aggressive media statements” and clear the air by talking directly with Pakistan instead of using the media. “I would still ask India to come to talks as engagements would be fruitful rather than estrangements,” he said.

Pakistan will never allow any force to use its soil for terrorist activities directed against any country, he said.

“During the past six months, Indian officials uttered some inappropriate statements about their certain reservations which were totally against diplomatic norms,” Khan said.

you forget that America is sustaining Pakistan as a going concern while India is a much needed market for goods and services.

We actually pay for the plane we buy with our money

you forgot something else…

usually if MMS wears light blue turbans …it seems of late he has switched to slightly darker blue…

must be uncle sam pushing him, eh?