USA 2004 Elections

So sorry AS, but another fantasy debunked!:smash:

The Lovenstein Institute IQ Report

In July 2001 an e-mail began to circulate around the internet claiming that the Lovenstein Institute, a think-tank based in Scranton, Pennsylvania, had conducted research into the IQ of all the Presidents of the past 50 years and concluded that George W. Bush ranked at the bottom, with an IQ of only 91.

This news quickly gained attention from the international media. The London Guardian broke the story on July 19, and on August 26 Garry Trudeau featured the report in his Doonesbury comic strip.

Unfortunately both Trudeau and the Guardian had fallen for a hoax.

The e-mail had originated as a joke on a website called linkydinky.com. In its original version, the joke was pretty obvious. For instance, Linkydinky.com cited the Pennsylvania Court Observer as its source for the news, noting that this newspaper only had a circlation of five readers. Furthermore, it described Dr. Lovenstein as “living in a mobile home in Scranton, Pennsylvania.”

As the joke made its way through people’s inboxes, these textual clues were stripped away, until in the final version of the email it sounded as if the Lovenstein Institute was an actual research organization.

Once they learned of their mistake, both Trudeau and the Guardian published retractions.

Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!
:Salute:

Peace To All Who Read This…

No one needs an IQ report to acknolwedge that this president has made horrible choices and taken bad advice, they just need to be unbiased and truthful. A smarter president would have made wiser decisions.

I don’t have free time like you to go and check that which research is accurate and not. Even if his IQ is not 91, but it must be pretty close. He acts and looks dumb, and majority of Americans are dumb to vote for him. If it was up to me, I would have implemented a law that any one who has IQ score of below 80 should not be allowed to vote. Because people like Bush are in power because of stupid voters.

Wow so many coconut analysts, tell me how many pakistani's running for election, has a woman ever been president or a black person or any minority in the great land of coke and fries?

Coconuts!

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I don’t have free time like you to go and check that which research is accurate and not.
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People who can't google are pretty dumb.

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Even if his IQ is not 91, but it must be pretty close. He acts and looks dumb, and majority of Americans are dumb to vote for him. ....
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Typical crap from leftie-Egyptian-Arra-bobos. A country living on a dole, squarely beaten by a tiny neighbor now wants to be the Mushlim leader. These leftie-Egyptians can't fix their own country, yet they are ready to spread terror and fasad thanks to Al-Zaya-hiri.

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I don’t have free time like you to go and check that which research is accurate and not. Even if his IQ is not 91, but it must be pretty close. He acts and looks dumb, and majority of Americans are dumb to vote for him. Most of the Americans are too stupid to vote.
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Posting a hoax email as fact is pretty dumb.

Why should Republicans run because 'they are being ridiculed'? Should Muslims turn and run from places where they are ridiculed for their 'right wing ideologies that they try to shove down throats'? I don't know what demographics study you can cite that shows Republican voters are stupid or with IQs below 80, I'd like to see it.

Perhaps there are so many non-Pakistani and non-Muslims lurking on this board because the policies, politics and geopolitical consequences of Pakistan and Muslims have a direct impact on the rest of the world. Probably the same reason you lurk about western culture.

I was not talking to you, so try to mind your own freaking business next time. Read my post again. I didn’t say I don’t know how to search, I said I don’t have time like you to check the accuracy of every info out there. Since you reply to every ones post, I am assuming that you have nothing better to do than sit here all day show your ignorance on every issue. You have already proved you’re self to be an idiot on US: Poor, Black, and Left Behind

What kind of grass you are smoking? This thread is about US politics. How the hell did you bring this Egyptian stuff in reply of my post? And your matoos stuff is not funny any more. So stop being a clown and save your self from some embarrassment

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No I don't.

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I was not talking to you, so try to mind your own freaking business next time. Read my post again. I didn’t say I don’t know how to search, I said I don’t have time like you to check the accuracy of every info out there.
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Sounds like someone hit a nerve again! So, AS, what you are saying is that you buy into anything that supports your position whether or not it is factual? Quite believable based upon some of your posts!

And, that's exactly why Westerners are on this board - to make sure that false propaganda isn't allowed to go unchallenged!

Peace To All Who Read This...

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Sounds like someone hit a nerve again! So, AS, what you are saying is that you buy into anything that supports your position whether or not it is factual? Quite believable based upon some of your posts!

And, that's exactly why Westerners are on this board - to make sure that false propaganda isn't allowed to go unchallenged!

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Well every one has some biased opinions. So is I. Aren’t you? And this board is not some responsible unbiased news organization that everything that posted here needs to be 100% unbiased fact. Some times even they mess up. Hasn't CBS done it recently?

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That explains a lot. You seem to have enough free time to find totally BS things on the Internet that you would like to believe. Then, you accept them as true and factual and merrily go through your day to day existence supporting your beliefs with pure Cr*P.

Ulta chore kotwaal ko daante
Look who is talking!
mya**! what about you? Don’t you try to shove your right wing agenda down our throats day and night? Don’t you really believe in that crap that comes from right winger talk shows and blogs. All the crap you write on this board is just a copy and paste from some blog or rush Limbaugh newsletter, you want to believe in what you agree with, so do I.

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After debate, polls find Kerry, Bush in dead heat. Challenger gains ground

Kerry’s domination of a debate that was supposed to play to Bush’s strength does not bode well for Bush’s re-election. People were able to see the men side-by-side without their propaganda machines coming in between and Bush came across as not having a grasp of the facts, his emotions or the English language. Now that the format and content switches to Kerry’s strengths, Bush’s mumbling and fumbling should become even more apparent. The race is on.

Republican Funded Group Throws Out Hundreds of Democrate Voter Registration Cards

Those responsible belong in jail. What these people are trying to do is take a persons right to vote away, the right to vote is sacred and they just toss it in the trash, this is simply sickening. Everyday it seems to be something new, The Republicans have crossed the threshold of dirty tricks and are now trying to silence portions of the American public. The Republican party has become a do anything to win party, even if it means fix the vote then so be it. The bigger shock is that these *******s think they can pull it off.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe

Please save the rightous indignation, UTD! The Demoncrats have been doing it for weeks.

Democratic Groups Engaged in Massive Voter Fraud Effort
Posted on September 29, 2004 at 11:32AM by Jeffrey Skelly in Politics, Election 2004

The party of voter fraud is at it again, only this time their efforts have attracted the attention of everyone from Attorney General John Ashcroft to part-time election workers in county offices coast-to-coast.

It appears that Democratic groups from Ohio to New Mexico are engaged in a massive voter ‘registration’ effort in order to help ‘re-defeat’ President Bush in November. Flush with cash from ‘527’ organizations, groups such as PIRGIM (Public Interest Research Group In Michigan), ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), the NAACP and others are flooding county election offices with thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms.

Here’s a sampling of voter fraud news from around the country…

In Ohio…

More than 1,000 voter registration forms and absentee ballot requests may be fraudulent in Lake and Summit counties, where investigations of irregularities are broadening. Lake County Sheriff Daniel Dunlap said Thursday that he will investigate an attempt to register a dead person and other possibly fraudulent documents that were submitted to the Lake County Board of Elections…

“We’ve seen voter fraud before, but never on this level,” Coulson said Thursday. “I grew up in Chicago and this looks like the politics of Mayor Daley in the '50s and '60s.”

Lake election and law enforcement officials said their investigation is centered on absentee registration attempts by the nonpartisan NAACP’s National Voter Fund and an anti-Bush, nonprofit group called Americans Coming Together, or ACT Ohio…

In Michigan…

The Lansing city clerk’s office is sorting through thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms that have been turned in recently. The city is using $2,000 from its general fund budget to pay for two temporary workers to sort through 5,000 to 8,000 bad forms.

Officials believe the forms were turned in by the state advocacy group Public Interest Research Group In Michigan, Ingham County Clerk Mike Bryanton said.

Calls to PIRGIM’s Ann Arbor office were not returned Friday or Tuesday. Bryanton said the investigation shows that some people took names out of a phone book and forged signatures.

Last month, Helmbrecht’s office notified Bryanton about registration form irregularities such as addresses that didn’t exist or several people listed for the same apartment.

The sheriff’s investigation shows that members of PIRGIM, a statewide advocacy group that encourages voter registration, were paid $50 a day to collect registrations and were given bonuses for collecting extra forms, Bryanton said.

In Wisconsin…

A group that says it has registered 30,000 voters in southeastern Wisconsin could face a criminal investigation because of voter registration applications that may have been filed fraudulently. Acting Racine City Clerk Carolyn Moskonas said Tuesday she will ask the district attorney’s office to investigate at least six voter registration applications filed by Project Vote.

That non-profit organization, which also has filed scores of Racine applications that contain bogus addresses, has fired its Racine-area coordinator because of problems with the filings.

Moskonas said that in each of the six potential fraud cases, the people named on the Project Vote applications told her office they had not signed the forms and had not been contacted by any voter registration drives.

In Nevada…

Clark County Registrar Larry Lomax first warned the public in July that his office was receiving a large number of suspect forms distributed by groups looking to register new voters in this tight election season. Lomax originally turned over the matter to the FBI, which he said had declined to investigate. The issue later went to the Nevada Division of Investigations, which continues to look into the matter, Heller said.

In New Mexico…

Earlier this year, Democratic Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron issued guidelines saying that a new state law – which mandates that voters who register without an election official present must show a photo ID at the polls – doesn’t apply to registrations collected by groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), but only to those people who sign up to vote by mail. So far, such groups have helped collect 112,000 new registrations, or one out of nine of the state’s voters.

Mary Herrera, the clerk in Bernalillo County, which includes Albuquerque, says her office has received over 3,000 suspicious registration forms. A 13-year-old boy received a voter card in the mail. Acorn organizers admitted that registration was submitted by one of their employees, who has since been fired. But in a court case this month, Acorn director Matt Henderson invoked his Fifth Amendment rights and refused to answer whether his group illegally copies voter registration cards before turning them in to election officials. Previously, he had admitted to the Albuquerque Tribune that it did so.

In New York and Florida…

Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city and Florida, a shocking finding that exposes both states to potential abuses that could alter the outcome of elections, a Daily News investigation shows. Registering in two places is illegal in both states, but the massive snowbird scandal goes undetected because election officials don’t check rolls across state lines. Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn’t claim a party. Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn’t raise red flags with officials in either place.

John Fund, author of Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens our Democracy, says that Americans overwhelmingly support laws that require voters to show their ID, but liberal groups oppose such measures, calling them racist.

The issue of photo ID has become symbolic of the clash of values on election standards between the two parties. Supporters say it is bizarre that 33 states don’t require a photo ID to vote, at a time when one is needed to buy an airline ticket, rent a video or cash a check. A Rasmussen Research poll in June found 82% of Americans believed voters should show photo ID, including 75% of Kerry voters. But liberal groups insist that even laws that allow voters to use a paycheck or utility bill as ID discriminate against minority voters and could lead to “profiling.”

When San Diego County Supervisor Bill Horn announced last week that he would petition Congress for a bill requiring photo ID, he was denounced by the local League of Women Voters. Jesse Durfee, chairman of the San Diego Democratic Party, says photo ID requirements “target specific communities and are discriminatory.” He calls them “a racist mechanism.” Similar charges are being hurled at supporters of a November ballot initiative in Arizona that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and apply for welfare.

But the reason photo ID and similar laws command such broad support is that citizens instinctively realize that in a highly charged election, some people will be tempted to violate the honor system on which our election rules are based. Should “anything goes” continue to be our ballot catch phrase, the nation may wake up to a crisis even bigger than the 2000 Florida folly. Perhaps then it will demand to know why more wasn’t done to fix the system before it failed again. That’s why officials need to enforce whatever safeguards we have this year–and then lobby hard for better voter education and protections against fraud in the future.

As Fund says, “When voters are disfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots or outright fraud, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting. The integrity of the ballot box is just as important to the credibility of elections as access to it.”

SOURCES:
The Plain Dealer (Ohio): 1,000 cases of suspicious voter registrations
Lansing State Journal (Michigan): Lansing clerk wading through bogus voter forms
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (Wisconsin): Voter registration drive comes under scrutiny
San Francisco Chronicle: President Bush concerned about possible Nevada voter fraud
John Fund (OpinionJournal): Ballots or Briefs?
New York Daily News: Exposed: Scandal of double voters

http://jskelly.squarespace.com/blog/2004/9/29/democratic-groups-engaged-in-massive-voter-fraud-effort.html

Not that its permissable for either party, of course! But, the Democrats do seem a little desperate!

Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! :Salute:

Republicans grabbing at anything they can to try and knock out Democrats from voting but the courts say no way.


Nev. Move to Block Some Dem Voters Fails

LAS VEGAS - Elections officials have rebuffed an attempt by a former GOP operative to purge about 17,000 Democrats from the voter rolls in the battleground state of Nevada, where the two presidential candidates are in a dead heat.

Dan Burdish, former head of the state Republican Party, filed a challenge last week claiming the Democrats should be removed from the rolls because they were inactive voters.

But Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax rejected the move Tuesday, saying Burdish could only challenge voters in his precinct, and then only if he has personal knowledge that they are inactive.

“I don’t think pulling names off a database equates to personal knowledge,” Lomax said.

Under state law, voters are placed on “inactive status” if they move and don’t update their addresses within 30 days of receiving notice to do so. Their registrations are then canceled if they don’t vote in two consecutive federal elections.

Democrats have criticized Burdish for trying to influence the hotly contested congressional race between Republican Rep. Jon Porter (news, bio, voting record) and his Democratic challenger, former casino executive Tom Gallagher, in the 3rd District.

State Republican officials have also distanced themselves from Burdish.

But Burdish denied trying to disenfranchise people.

The Democrats are just “blowing hot air as far as I’m concerned,” Burdish said. “I’m not suppressing any vote unless it’s in a local district they are not allowed to vote in.”

The latest polls have showed President Bush (news - web sites) and Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) running within a few percentage points of each other in Nevada. Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) lost the state by fewer than 22,000 votes in 2000.

Kids will be kids.

Good reply mrpockets. Sheesh, the way some of these knee-jerk liberals sound, Republicans are only one wrung on the evil ladder higher than Osama. For all the "count every vote" mantra coming out of the Gore camp last election, the Democrats sure were happy to throw out absentee military ballots weren't they.

The bottom line is that both parties want to register their own voters (dead or alive) and get their constitutents to the polls early and often.

I've been away for quite some time and on my temporary return I notice..........................................................

.................................hey,

nothings changed?

Some new faces and names, but subjects still the same.

Just a question to all my American compatriots. Do Americans actually think outside the box when it comes to Voting Time. I'm finding it rather hard to comprehend that the Presidential Race is so close & corrupt and Dubya is still in the running considering the amount of damage he's caused worldwide. If he's the best you've got, then I dread to think what's the worse?

Anyway, on a more brighter note. Good Luck to ya, cuz you sure as 'smokin guns' gonna need it.

not really sholay, people are pretty pathetic and get influenced easily by 30-second attack ads. more people vote based on emotion than fact, as the argument currently on this subject shows.

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I've been away for quite some time and on my temporary return I notice..........................................................

.................................hey,

nothings changed?

Some new faces and names, but subjects still the same.

Just a question to all my American compatriots. Do Americans actually think outside the box when it comes to Voting Time. I'm finding it rather hard to comprehend that the Presidential Race is so close & corrupt and Dubya is still in the running considering the amount of damage he's caused worldwide. If he's the best you've got, then I dread to think what's the worse?

Anyway, on a more brighter note. Good Luck to ya, cuz you sure as 'smokin guns' gonna need it.
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