Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
once the india gets that technology, it can be reverse-engineered. Even if tomarrow, requirement arises for testing nukes ( which is very unlikely) india, evn before US does it, can scrape the deal and go for tests. That decision will be taken after careful analysis of the situation, whenever arise. Point here is that..indians are getting the precious technology, fuel from NSGs and lifting of US sanction 9 which boost the economy further). The energy hungry india needs this deal for boosting civilian reactors. i don't see any problem in this deal even if US wants reserve rights to scrap the deal if india tests nukes.
as already stated, india has already tested the nukes and had enough data to simulate it on their supercomputer. why will india go for physical tests at all??
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
once the india gets that technology, it can be reverse-engineered.
to reverse engineer any machine, u will have to dismantle them first. How can u reverse engineer a nuclear reactor which is under continuous IAEA inspections?...so, it is not possible.
Moreover, we should never resort to such means even if it was possible and then break the trust with US, france, russia and other suppliers. Pay them, and get the technology.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
1 - Please look at a map before making such absurd statements.
2 - 13 Hours is the time it will take Chinese Warships to sail from their ports in China and reach the coast of Taiwan
And won’t that completely give away Chinese intentions of an invasion. Besides Taiwan has designed its military to withstand a chinese missile bombardment. It also has Arrow II Missile Defence Systems, Aegis Warships to counter the Chinese missiles. Firing missiles on Taiwan is not going to destroy the Taiwanese Military nor its infrastructure.
Since Iraq is not an Island, they had no need to Land.
Their forces were stationed in Kuwait and used it as spring board for the invasion of Iraq.
I did. Besides the BJP warmongering, neither Pakistan nor Indian generals wanted a war in 2002. US role in preventing a war in 2002 was minimal at best.
No, I am knowledgeable in many things and such I can carry debates on multiple issues.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
to reverse engineer any machine, u will have to dismantle them first. How can u reverse engineer a nuclear reactor which is under continuous IAEA inspections?...so, it is not possible.
Moreover, we should never resort to such means even if it was possible and then break the trust with US, france, russia and other suppliers. Pay them, and get the technology.
ssingh, i said reverse engineer the technology not the reactors. if i am not wrong, US will give us the technology..not just reactors.
otherwise also, indians have the five decades of experience in the nuclear technology and we have developed our own reactors too ( may be with foreign spares). it won't take indian scientist to develop their own with the master piece in hand.
forget about trust. Even US knows the above fact. assistance from US is just shortening the duration the Indians take to develop the nuclear reactor generation commercially viable electricity. Even if amerikans don't assist india, indians will develop it one day or other. US just want india to be on her side in world politics specially because of her influence in third world, matured democracy and growing economic power and........................balance her with heavy weight china ( who is not so reliable as per US)
otherwise why do u think US is interested in this deal??
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
I always thought the tough part of nuclear energy is the engineering and not the underlying science which is fairly well know to people who have completed a decent undergrad degree. Safety, backups, training, materials & qa are incredibly complex. there is less scope for modularisation than one imagines.
In other words there is no need to reverse engineer because there's nothing to discover.
The biggest challenge if US balks at it will be for India to get materials - not just the visible uranium derivatives but a bunch of other things. They can but all that becomes easier and cheaper to procure with US help (eg: read about Australia).
Pakistan's program was brought to dead halt several years ago. Not clear whether even necessary peiodical refresh was done, though signs are that they were.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
Because you bargain away your countries rights for the sake of gaining some other countries nuclear technology? If it was truly fair and balanced, then the US wouldnt have put any clauses into it… Your not exactly being treated as equals are you…
How much of queer do you have to be to not get that?
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
does india need any more nuke testing in the near future? i'm not even sure india has gained anything with the nuke testing its done in the last decade.
the opposition to the bill is from two parties - the BJP (who are a bunch of hindutva monkeys), and the commies, who have it in their manifesto to oppose the US. these folks' opposition isn't based on any real concern for india's future.
india has the biggest thorium reserves in the world, india is also heading towards a certain energy crunch. not getting civilian nuclear technology to tap this thorium, but trying to run gas lines from iran though an explosive balochistan is retarded.
Again, not a matter of should they test their technology, but whether they have the right to or not...
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
It doesn't have anything to do with selling soul. If india carries out any nuclear test, US will ask to return all the equipment it gave and also along with that, pay money to india for losses resulted from that development under those market prices. They are not asking us to sign an agreement to bar nuclear tests for this agreement to go through.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
It doesn't have anything to do with selling soul. If india carries out any nuclear test, US will ask to return all the equipment it gave and also along with that, pay money to india for losses resulted from that development under those market prices. They are not asking us to sign an agreement to bar nuclear tests for this agreement to go through.
A country thats treated as equals wouldnt have to contend with any sort of clauses... The Communists are right, the US isnt treating you people as an equal partner.
By agreeing to the clause, your are accepting this treatment. Might not be selling your soul, but does seems like your selling your self to the highest bidder.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
US hopes India would not go for Iran pipeline
By IANS
Friday October 26, 09:04 AM
Washington, Oct 26 (IANS) The US is hoping that India would not move forward with the Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project as Washington has imposed more sanctions on Tehran citing links to terrorism and weapons proliferation. ‘With regard to the Iran pipeline issue…** We’re hoping that India won’t move forward on this,’ a senior official said at a briefing Thursday ahead of US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Paulson’s four-day trip to India starting Sunday.**
‘We think at a time when the world should be imposing greater discipline on its interactions with (Iranian) companies and financial institutions and the Iranian government more broadly, that this is not the right path forward.’ David McCormick, treasury undersecretary for international affairs, said.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
Merc, if china wants to invade taiwan then why would it do it with hands tied behind its back?
As for arrow, patirots etc, they haven’t been test in real time. US [and israel] don’t have a real missile defence system now [some say russia has one but that is speculation too]. If that was true, then israel wouldn’t be scared **** of iran’s missile program..
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
Now there is the new Turkmeistan Pipeline project one the way, and its sponsored by the US... India is also showing some intrest in it apparently. So seems the US is doing all it can to undermine the Iranis. Pak on its part has said they are still commited to the Iran project.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
Israel is in no way shape or form scared of Iran’s missiles
Israel has a fully operation missile defense system. It hasn’t been tested in a real war because it was finished developing in 2002 before the Iraq invasion.
It knows full well that even Iran launches a nuke against Israel, every single inch of Iran will become uninhabitable for 20,000 years
Israel is just filibustering and goating the USA to do its dirty work in Iran
As for China and Taiwan.
China knows full well that it needs 10 years of military growth before it can mount an invasion of Taiwan
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
So Good News that Bush didn't offer a similar deal to Pakistan :)
:)hehe...ofcourse u will say that when your government had asked a similar deal. And it is indian government which finally said no to that deal due to communist allies.
Re: US to scrap nuclear deal if India tests weapons - State Dept
Israel is in no way shape or form scared of Iran's missiles
Israel has a fully operation missile defense system. It hasn't been tested in a real war because it was finished developing in 2002 before the Iraq invasion.
It knows full well that even Iran launches a nuke against Israel, every single inch of Iran will become uninhabitable for 20,000 years
Israel is just filibustering and goating the USA to do its dirty work in Iran
As for China and Taiwan.
China knows full well that it needs 10 years of military growth before it can mount an invasion of Taiwan
So said Mercenary the unofficial spokesmen of the Israeli Armed forces.
