The question remains has the caliph been killed or not as a result? Good riddance and well done America if killed.
US air strikes target top Isis leaders in Iraq | World news | The Guardian
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I hope he don't keep coming back to life.
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Good. This means that the intelligence agencies have now started to infilterate ISIS on a high level. They are now capable of knowing who is in the ISIS leadership and when and when they meet.
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caliph?
well done America?
Come on man … Their foreign policy is making the terrorists … The only thing they are doing is a bit of pruning of a holy bush … That they planted.
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next re-incarnate commander-in-chief of ISIS: Abu Bakr al-Damishqii. :D
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never take responsibility for your own crappy violent religious ideologies gone wild. blame amreeka come rain or sunshine. spread paranoia with numerous supernatural theories of anti-christ. winner.
same modus opera ndi from psyah, lal topi hamid, bin laden, al baghdadi…
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I was about to post something similar, so obviously I support your statement somewhat. At the same time, just because someone gives you guns, you don’t need to start pointing those guns in every which direction. The internal power struggles are there regardless of external influence. America just knows how to use those internal power struggles to their benefit.
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never take responsibility for your own crappy violent religious ideologies gone wild. blame amreeka come rain or sunshine. spread paranoia with numerous supernatural theories of anti-christ. winner.
same modus opera ndi from psyah, lal topi hamid, bin laden, al baghdadi...
Yes, whats the root cause behind these violent power struggles between fractions of sunni muslims. What is the root cause for the violence between shia and sunni muslims, whats the root cause behind the violence inflicted on non-muslims in muslim countries?
We need to understand that we don't live in the 7th century anymore, and if we are ever going to progress, then we need to start looking at non-muslim societies, who have succeeded. We flock to these societies, yet we refuse to learn lessons from them. And we think that if we try to implement social and political norms from the 7th century, even more ardently, we will succeed. We just refuse to learn from history and actually work toward progression.
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No confirmed news about Baghdadi’s status:
Air strikes target Islamic State leaders in Iraq: TV report | Reuters
Air strikes target Islamic State leaders in Iraq: TV report
BY MICHAEL GEORGY
BAGHDAD Sat Nov 8, 2014 2:24pm EST
A man cleans his shop at the site of a car bomb attack in Baghdad’s Al-Amil district November 8, 2014. Car bombs killed 12 people in the Iraqi capital and the city of Ramadi to the west on Saturday, police and medical sources said.
CREDIT: REUTERS/AHMED MALIK
(Reuters) - U.S.-led air strikes have targeted a gathering of Islamic State leaders in Iraq in a town near the Syrian border, possibly including the group’s top commander Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Al-Hadath television channel said on Saturday.
Iraqi security officials were not immediately available for comment on the report from the station, part of Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television, but two witnesses told Reuters an air strike targeted a house where senior Islamic State officers were meeting, near the western Iraqi border town of al-Qaim.
They said Islamic State fighters had cleared a hospital so that their wounded could be treated. Islamic State fighters used loudspeakers to urge residents to donate blood, the witnesses said.
Residents said there were unconfirmed reports that Islamic State’s local leader in the western Iraqi province of Anbar and his deputy were killed.
U.S. officials would not confirm or deny whether Baghdadi, the group’s overall leader, had been targeted.
One U.S. official said that air strikes were carried out against a convoy near the northern city of Mosul, about 280 km (170 miles) from al-Qaim, and against small Islamic State units elsewhere, but the U.S.-led air strikes had not targeted an Islamic State gathering.
An Islamic State supporter contacted by Reuters said the strike hit a local market, killing at least eight people.
Al-Hadath said dozens of people were killed and wounded in the strike in al-Qaim, and that Baghdadi’s fate was unclear. Al-Qaim and the neighboring Syrian town of Albukamal are on a strategic supply route linking territory held by Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
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In a thread re racism, you indicated if the recipient of racism reacts in a positive manner, racism will magically disappear. From your POV, racism is an individual phenomenon. An individual- black or white - can be racist. And the antidote to racism is not to feel vicitmized, but be positive in one’s outlook.
The concept of institutionalized racism was foreign to you.
Now you are singing a different tune. Can we have some consistency?
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never take responsibility for your own crappy violent religious ideologies gone wild. blame amreeka come rain or sunshine. spread paranoia with numerous supernatural theories of anti-christ. winner.
same modus opera ndi from psyah, lal topi hamid, bin laden, al baghdadi...
My post does exactly that ... I am laying blame where it deserve to go ... ISIS are an evil symptom of a sinister cause - the cause is not from my religion - but from the anti-christ US foreign policy ... It is anti-christ because they have rejected everything Christ stood for ... He was the agent of Peace ... the US adminstration have been responsible for the worst crimes of humanity history has ever seen. Despite that ... I still see hope for the Americans and individuals even within the system ... free yourselves of the shackles of hate and injustice ... and see what I am saying is true.
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In a thread re racism, you indicated if the recipient of racism reacts in a positive manner, racism will magically disappear. From your POV, racism is an individual phenomenon. An individual- black or white - can be racist. And the antidote to racism is not to feel vicitmized, but be positive in one's outlook.
The concept of institutionalized racism was foreign to you.
Now you are singing a different tune. Can we have some consistency?
Peace Southie
Institutionalised Racism was never foreign to me - that is your assumption. My point has always been never to fight fire with fire ... but to douse fire with water.
My statement here is consistent - I am no advocate of harm to America - My fellow human brothers and sisters live there ... my task is to rise above hate and accusation and protect myself, my family, my community and even my opponents from harm ... If I am to be a flag bearer for my religion then I need to understand that my dear prophet taught us to protect the victims of injustice as well as protect the doers of injustice from their own selves ... My urgency on the US to change the foreign policy is based what we can all fathom - the quickest route to peace. I don't support ISIS - but I can tell you why they exist.
You don't congratulate people for killing ... you breathe a sigh of relief if it happens to be a madman ... then you go about looking for how he caught rabies in the first place.
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I was about to post something similar, so obviously I support your statement somewhat. At the same time, just because someone gives you guns, you don't need to start pointing those guns in every which direction. The internal power struggles are there regardless of external influence. America just knows how to use those internal power struggles to their benefit.
Peace Balthier
I talk to people who I believe I can reason with ... I believe US can be reasonable that is why I metaphorically speak out to them ... But what can I say to rabid madmen? Saying anything about ISIS - that they should not do this or that implies they can reason ... Any one who can use the name of Islam and become such ugly people astonishes me - correction - sickens me to the point that I can't imagine they are real ... Our scholars are doing a great job in warning us against ISIS - the kuffar (unethical power hungry elite) will be dodgy that is true ... but if Muslims do it - it hurts us all ... I'm just annoyed that Americans are coming to do our laundry ... Where are our countries? ISIS should not have taken hold and they still draw recruits ...
It is about time that Muslim countries come together rid the world of ideologies such as ISIS and other factions - through the correct means so people have better things to do with their lives - like remain Conscious and Loving Allah (SWT) and His Creation.
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Peace Southie
Institutionalised Racism was never foreign to me - that is your assumption. My point has always been never to fight fire with fire ... but to douse fire with water.
My statement here is consistent - I am no advocate of harm to America - My fellow human brothers and sisters live there ... my task is to rise above hate and accusation and protect myself, my family, my community and even my opponents from harm ... If I am to be a flag bearer for my religion then I need to understand that my dear prophet taught us to protect the victims of injustice as well as protect the doers of injustice from their own selves ... My urgency on the US to change the foreign policy is based what we can all fathom - the quickest route to peace. I don't support ISIS - but I can tell you why they exist.
You don't congratulate people for killing ... you breathe a sigh of relief if it happens to be a madman ... then you go about looking for how he caught rabies in the first place.
I didn't say you advocated harm to America. In the other thread, the discussion centered on how a victim of racism should respond. My position was the group that is subjected to such racism has a right - actually an obligation - to protest such racism. Your position was that such attitudes beget more racism.
But when it comes to the group that is victimized being Muslims you are singing a different tune.
Call a spade a spade. Protest injustice where you see it. Not selectively.
And no. Protest does not mean doing harm to the offender. That was your misinterpretation.
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The great caliph. 
No news since last night.
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I didn't say you advocated harm to America. In the other thread, the discussion centered on how a victim of racism should respond. My position was the group that is subjected to such racism has a right - actually an obligation - to protest such racism. Your position was that such attitudes beget more racism.
But when it comes to the group that is victimized being Muslims you are singing a different tune.
Call a spade a spade. Protest injustice where you see it. Not selectively.
And no. Protest does not mean doing harm to the offender. That was your misinterpretation.
Peace Southie
There are different ways to deal with different issues ... The root cause of racism is based on suspicion and the way to break that is to become familiar at the individual level, actually to remove things profiling altogether (I am the only one to mention that profiling itself is inherently flawed) ... The root cause of despotic groups like ISIS is, on the whole, bad western foreign policy.
Neither will profiling cure racism nor blaming Islam about ISIS will it solve extremism.
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The great caliph. :D No news since last night.
The true caliphate was an adornment for the Muslims and an honour - people are hijacking this status and because of those hijackers the title is being mocked. May be another system of rule should be in place today, but even CENTCOM agrees with me that had earlier intervention been undertaken then this manifestation could have been avoided much earlier.
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So ends another Caliphate (possibly).
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You cannot really completely absolve amreeka.
…The Administration may have been willing to rely on dissident organizations in Iran even when there was reason to believe that the groups had operated against American interests in the past. The use of Baluchi elements, for example, is problematic, Robert Baer, a former C.I.A. clandestine officer who worked for nearly two decades in South Asia and the Middle East, told me. “The Baluchis are Sunni fundamentalists who hate the regime in Tehran, but you can also describe them as Al Qaeda,” Baer told me. “These are guys who cut off the heads of nonbelievers—in this case, it’s Shiite Iranians. The irony is that we’re once again working with Sunni fundamentalists, just as we did in Afghanistan in the nineteen-eighties.” Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is considered one of the leading planners of the September 11th attacks, are Baluchi Sunni fundamentalists…
Preparing the Battlefield - The New Yorker
However, how to deal with amreeka about it, is where the difference should be. Lal topi’s ideas are the most dangerous for Pakistanis. We need to think rationally and find a middle ground; not over reliant on amreeka and not fight with them either.