US Special Forces training Pakistani Troops

[ehtasab]

@TheRealDeal

US/UK forces are fighting outside their countries in relatively small numbers, Taliban have not been able to kick them out of Afghanistan, and they have conquered Iraq.

If Taliban had air firepower, if they had tanks, if they had access to drones/satellite technology then I would've agreed that Taliban failed to oust coalition of the (un)willing but the equation is heavily tilted in favor of coalition who are armed to teeth with all the latest gadgets/arms/ammo yet they are unable to seize control of the land.

[mercenary2k]

@desert_bird

Mercenary2k Bhai , let it write in your diary or anywhere else for a record that

Nobody can Defeat Afghanis

All these NATO and US would shamelessly be kicked out eventually

Alexander the Great, 2 times British,Russians and now its turn of US

Cheers and enjoy

are they fighting all of afghanistan or these taliban and al qaeda extremists?

its a different fight…

alexander the great conquered afghanistan…the british and russians tried conquering it…

NATO is supporting the afghan government and tehy are not fighting all of afghans…

since most of them come from pakistan

[ehtasab]

are they fighting all of afghanistan or these taliban and al qaeda extremists?

its a different fight....

alexander the great conquered afghanistan....the british and russians tried conquering it.....

NATO is supporting the afghan government and tehy are not fighting all of afghans....

since most of them come from pakistan

I don't want to suggest what desert bird is saying (Afghanis undefeatable) but Taliban represent bigger chunk of Afghanistan, its not like they are present in few pockets here and there.

[mercenary2k]

I don't want to suggest what desert bird is saying (Afghanis undefeatable) but Taliban represent bigger chunk of Afghanistan, its not like they are present in few pockets here and there.

Taliban do not enjoy popular support like the Sunni insurgents did in Iraq. Thats why they were able to live in cities and still conduct operations because the local population supported their actions in Iraq.

This is not the case here. The Taliban are living mostly in Pakistan crossing the border to conduct operations. They send suicide bombers to cities but never establish bases there like Sunni Insurgents did in Iraqi cities.

That tells you that they do not enjoy local support.

And thus its a different fight than that the Soviets waged in the 1980's or the British in 1840's and 1870's.

The British overthrew a popular ruler which angered the Afghans while the Soviets were trying to prop up a unpopular government.

So its different circumstances.

[mercenary2k]

@wine

..and they are not best trained in the world? 70% of Afghanistan is in under Taliban rule, a quick Google search would be helpful !

Is Kabul under Taliban rule? Thats news to me.

@wine

You are funny, lets move on. Just one line: USA is doing drone attacks with the permission of Pakistan state.

Even if Pakistan did not give it permission, you really think that these drone attacks will stop?

What do you think Pakistan is, a global super-power?

@wine

Yes US soldiers are the best in the world, that's why 8 years in Afghanistan with half of the western countries forces, and all the resources availability they can ask, still they can't control it. Bravo !

Thats because the taliban are crossing the border from Pakistan and its a big border to protect. Wherever the NATO forces move, the Taliban are heavily defeated. Thats why they run away to Pakistan and send brainwashed kids for suicide bombing operations.

I am glad you are cheering such people.

@wine

Total US Army casualties : 640 (US Gov Figure) now add rest of the collation and do the math !

I said US Casualties were around 600, and thank you for proving to everyone I was correct.

@wine

Again, FC is commanded by Major General, its like a Military police kind a force, not even trained like Soldiers, they use light ammunation, it was President Musharraf who start equiping them with heavry artillery so please stop comparing FC with regular Army, give them some time !

Pakistan has its XI Corps with the 7th Infantry and 9th Infantry Division fighting these people. It has suffered immense losses. The FC are subsidary to the military forces. Even when the Army has been deployed it has been totally ineffective in fighting these people. Pakistan has lost over 3,000 troops fighting these animals.

Pakistan needs help. It is still using World War II tactics to fight a gureilla force.

@wine

Stop watching Hollywood flicks, it will help you alot. Ground realities are always different, Afghainstan has the history of destroying so-called world powers.

Destroying? Was Britain destroyed after it invaded in 1840? Please stop over glorifying Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA is fighting the Taliban who are based out of Pakistan. These people do not enjoy popular support and thus run away to Tribal areas to recruit and send fighters back into Afghanistan. This is different then lets say the Iraqi Insurgents who had local support and thus did not need to run to Jordan or Syria to stage operations and could stay in Iraqi cities and rely on the protection of the population.

@wine

Indeed time has come to USA too, its already becoming Graveyard of western technologies, is it not?

Yeah, good luck with that.

Message me on gupshup once that is done.

[champ]

Re: US Special Forces training Pakistani Troops

[quote]
Is Kabul under Taliban rule? Thats news to me.

[/quote]

So if Kabul isn't under Taliban Rule & the Whole Afg is , will that show how Professional US Army is?????

[quote]
Even if Pakistan did not give it permission, you really think that these drone attacks will stop?

What do you think Pakistan is, a global super-power?
[/quote]

Yes we have to power to STOP the Drone attacks , & we are fully capable of Fighting on our turf... Y do you think USA needed Permission on the First place. think about it ......
We might not be a super Power but we have defeated one before...... & are quite capable of doing that again.

[quote]
Thats because the taliban are crossing the border from Pakistan and its a big border to protect. Wherever the NATO forces move, the Taliban are heavily defeated. Thats why they run away to Pakistan and send brainwashed kids for suicide bombing operations.

I am glad you are cheering such people.
[/quote]

Taliban Come from Pakistan ! Gud The Joke of Centuart, you see we offered to Compleatly seal the Boarder with land mine & Drone Survlince, but Guess what Karzi the US puppet stated bouncing on his chair , claiming that what Pakistan is doing in not right... WHAT IS THIS , Some Child's Game........................

[quote]
Pakistan has its XI Corps with the 7th Infantry and 9th Infantry Division fighting these people. It has suffered immense losses. The FC are subsidary to the military forces. Even when the Army has been deployed it has been totally ineffective in fighting these people. Pakistan has lost over 3,000 troops fighting these animals.

Pakistan needs help. It is still using World War II tactics to fight a gureilla force.
[/quote]

Do you even know what you are talking about?? Army was only Fighting in Swat & was completely Dominating the taliban there, but in FATA & the other areas FC is the only one present , yes Army is there for Backup , but they dont take part in operations.

[quote]
Yeah, good luck with that.

Message me on gupshup once that is done.

[/quote]

Sure even if wine forgot i will do this honor, bcoz the time of USA has ended.
You see it the the law of nature. WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN.........

[ehtasab]

Taliban do not enjoy popular support like the Sunni insurgents did in Iraq. Thats why they were able to live in cities and still conduct operations because the local population supported their actions in Iraq.

This is not the case here. The Taliban are living mostly in Pakistan crossing the border to conduct operations. They send suicide bombers to cities but never establish bases there like Sunni Insurgents did in Iraqi cities.

That tells you that they do not enjoy local support.

You are suggesting as if the Taliban are active only in eastern part of Afghanistan while rest of it is all calm and cool. If Taliban were getting sanctuaries only in Pakistan then how do they manage to rise in other parts? Someone is covering their incompetent behinds by putting whole blame on Pakistan.

[wine]

Is Kabul under Taliban rule? Thats news to me.

Even if Pakistan did not give it permission, you really think that these drone attacks will stop?

What do you think Pakistan is, a global super-power?

Thats because the taliban are crossing the border from Pakistan and its a big border to protect. Wherever the NATO forces move, the Taliban are heavily defeated. Thats why they run away to Pakistan and send brainwashed kids for suicide bombing operations.

I am glad you are cheering such people.

I said US Casualties were around 600, and thank you for proving to everyone I was correct.

Pakistan has its XI Corps with the 7th Infantry and 9th Infantry Division fighting these people. It has suffered immense losses. The FC are subsidary to the military forces. Even when the Army has been deployed it has been totally ineffective in fighting these people. Pakistan has lost over 3,000 troops fighting these animals.

Pakistan needs help. It is still using World War II tactics to fight a gureilla force.

Destroying? Was Britain destroyed after it invaded in 1840? Please stop over glorifying Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA is fighting the Taliban who are based out of Pakistan. These people do not enjoy popular support and thus run away to Tribal areas to recruit and send fighters back into Afghanistan. This is different then lets say the Iraqi Insurgents who had local support and thus did not need to run to Jordan or Syria to stage operations and could stay in Iraqi cities and rely on the protection of the population.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Message me on gupshup once that is done.

Same old rhetoric of yours .. dude their was once two super powers, and one of them try to mess with us. Rest you know what happened, their was Romans, Alexander the Great, Tajiks, Mongols, British, Soviet and now USA :)

History repeat itself !

[burqaposhx]

.....dude their was once two super powers [USA and Communist Russia, and one of them [Communist Russia] try to mess with us. Rest you know what happened, ...!

Well well. Commies will still be raping Afghanis if not for the $billions of cash and arms from the USA. Why are you so thankless?

.....their was Romans, Alexander the Great, Tajiks, Mongols, British, Soviet

and now USA :)

History repeat itself !

Most of the world learns from the invasions and they setup good defenses to stop further invasions.

Afghans on the other hand are so primitive, that they can neither stop others from invading them, but in fact they happily invite others to invade them. USA invasion was made possible by Afghanis themselves.

Sad to see that tribal Afghanis kill their own police, their own army and then jump with joy (like some Afghani posters on this forum).

Once Afghanis destroy their own government, kill their police officers, bomb their own army, then guess what?

No wonder Afghanistan has been raped so many times .

History surely repeats itself (And Afghanis refuse to learn from it).