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but when it comes to US soldiers being killed in Iraq, you start showing me the result. The fact is result is no different in Afghanistan and Iraq, with or without UN.
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Let me tell you the difference. The difference is that US unilaterally went into Iraq with NO support from the world. They falsely accused Iraq of having a severe and immediate threat of nuclear weapons. They killed thousands of civilians, destroyed their infastructure, turned Iraq into a lawless country.
Now that they realize that Iraq has no nuclear weapons, as a result and an act of desperation as well as to try and justify their presence in the country, they chose to pathetically try and link Iraq with 9/11. Now they're begging the world for help while their soldiers are getting killed.
Bottom line, the US in Iraq is not a war, it's terrorism to the highest degree.
^ Fretl,a ctually the french and the canadians ARE stupid. It is a scientifically proven fact. In fact they make average a benchmark for whatever they do. So please don;t try to draw parallels between the Greatest nation in the world and run of the mill parking lots like Canada and France.
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US **unilaterally* went into Iraq
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Are you sure about that ?
Rest of your post is another frustrated attempt to somehow prove that I support US war on Iraq. Try again. Btw, Can you please shed some light on the result of UN backed war in Afghanistan vs. the Result of US led war in Iraq ?
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^ Fretl,a ctually the french and the canadians ARE stupid. It is a scientifically proven fact. In fact they make average a benchmark for whatever they do. So please don;t try to draw parallels between the Greatest nation in the world and run of the mill parking lots like Canada and France.
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Don't blame us for being stupid. It's the igloos we live in.
Are you sure about that ?
Rest of your post is another frustrated attempt to somehow prove that I support US war on Iraq. Try again
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Firstly, I don't get frustrated, you should know that by now. Secondly, I don't need to try, especially with you.
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Btw, Can you please shed some light on the result of UN backed war in Afghanistan vs. the Result of US led war in Iraq ?
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When the Americans went into Afghnistan, they had at least some sort of reason for doing so (9/11), even though I was against it. They accomplished absolutely nothing.
Let me tell you the difference. The difference is that US unilaterally went into Iraq with NO support from the world. They falsely accused Iraq of having a severe and immediate threat of nuclear weapons. They killed thousands of civilians, destroyed their infastructure, turned Iraq into a lawless country.
Now that they realize that Iraq has no nuclear weapons, as a result and an act of desperation as well as to try and justify their presence in the country, they chose to pathetically try and link Iraq with 9/11. Now they're begging the world for help while their soldiers are getting killed.
Bottom line, the US in Iraq is not a war, it's terrorism to the highest degree.
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Here is the reality. It is good that we went in and saved ourselves and the rest of the world more mischief by a tyrannical regime that killed millions of people, invaded it's neighbors, spun the UN around like a little lattoo and made mockery of the very institutions that you seem to think should have dealt with the regime.
If 19 terrorists with box cutters can wreak so much havoc, imagine what a mad man with a state resources behind him can do. Is it worth the chance? I will tell you the answer. NO!!!
Your girlfriend who is patting your back just posted something about her dad getting out by the skin of teeth on 9/11. I for one am not the type to wait and see what happen whether people who have a history of killing millions of MUSLIMS, and have been flouting int'l regs should be allowed to stay in power because your pathetic understanding of real politik dictates so, inaccordance with your chip on the shoulder about being North Dakita's gay neighbor.
You scream OIl. DO you know what it would have cost to even bring up Iraq to it's pre-saddam era as compared to pre-1991 era? Go play doctor in the closet...shabbash!!
“Saved the world”…good way of putting it. They enjoy lying to the public by making it look like they’re “saving the world from a tyrannical regime”, is that why they have a new reason for being in Iraq every day? First it’s the “immediate” nuclear weapons threat, then it’s “Save the Iraqi’s from a madman”, now it’s “9/11”. What will it be next? I’m sure they have a board of morons in Washington drafting up more reasons.
Americans knew of this “tyrannical” regime in the 80’s when they were allies with good old Saddam. In fact they use that very reason all the time (gassing of the kurds). Why didn’t they save the world back then? Oh right, they were saving the world from by siding with Saddam against Iran. Good job :k:
Just as the US morons in the white house feel that Saddam is a madman, many feel the same way about Bush. Many feel that the US is a tyrannical regime and shouldn’t take the chance, so they must be stopped. If the US feels the need to attack another country for no reason (yes, that’s right) , then don’t be alarmed if the “terrorists” do the same. It goes both ways.
So where are those resources you keep talking about? The "Immediate and Sever threat. The UN didn’t find them, US didn’t find them either, and won’t until they’re planted.
You’re not the type to wait and see what happens? Does North Korea ring a bell? The US has a history of siding with those “murdurous” leaders when they need them. Good example they’re setting :k: As if the US is so innocent. Don’t make me laugh. Where were the US “saviours” when half a million Iraqi children died from sanctions? Since when do they care all of a sudden?
As for international regulations. Why did the US go into Iraq when they knew full well that Iraq was cooperating with the UN weapons inspectors? Why did they pressure the UN to draft up reports which favored the war? Don’t talk about international regulations when the US went into Iraq, illegally.
Grow up, galaxy boy.
…and you scream “Nuclear Weapons”. Have you ever heard of North Korea? Go get a reality check.
Pakistan was in bed with the Taliban. India ran hand in hand with the Soviets. What is your point. Please do tell. National interests are paramount. Always have been.
To draw parallels from Bush to Saddam is like trying ot compare FDR to IDi Amin. IN one aspect, policy is made through deliberation and consensus, in the other Saddam nods at his generals and ten thousand shia are killed in Najaf. Do learn the difference...I cannot stress how important is reading to you kids.
If you want to blame someone for the Iraqi kids...blame Saddam. WHo thanks to the US is gone. Never to repeat the atrocities .
Noth Korean problem will be solved through mediation with the Chinese, Russians and the Japanese. Mostly by the chinese ASk me why, Chanda. Because a conflagaration of hostilities in teh KOrean peninsula means that 8% y/y growth for China is gone. In the Manufacturing led economy, if FDI goes away to oher places due to wart or whatever...it rarely comes back.
You have much to learn..I would recomend you stop cutting and pasting sound bite articles and go sit in a class somewhere where you can learn about how the world works.
Matsui is only by product of the environment he was programmed in. It's not his fault. America and it's politics breeds on the general publics fears and stupidity.
Most Americans actually believe Bush and his lies.
Bush did go into Iraq using the wrong head (the one between his legs) and now has come to a dead end thinking what to do next. He's hoping to hear the word 'cut' wishing Spielberg is sitting on the chair!
Unfortunately, this Administeration has isolated itself from world sympathy, strategy, politics, reality and general way of life that soon the US will be living like Hermits.
A wise old man once said ' it takes years to build up respect seconds to lose it'. The US is a living example of this statement.
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**This headline made me laugh. It should read "Muslims fail to win over Americans".
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Yeah it's kind of hard to win over Americans when Muslim countries are being bombed in a successive shoot out (Afghanistan, Iraq, now Iran?). Maybe if the US govt. stopped carpet bombing innocent civilians, we could have begun some form of dialogue long ago between Muslim Americans and nonMuslim Americans.
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SO what????????
Pakistan was in bed with the Taliban. India ran hand in hand with the Soviets. What is your point. Please do tell. National interests are paramount. Always have been.
To draw parallels from Bush to Saddam is like trying ot compare FDR to IDi Amin. IN one aspect, policy is made through deliberation and consensus, in the other Saddam nods at his generals and ten thousand shia are killed in Najaf. Do learn the difference...I cannot stress how important is reading to you kids.
If you want to blame someone for the Iraqi kids...blame Saddam. WHo thanks to the US is gone. Never to repeat the atrocities .
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Right, national interests are paramount, that's why the Washington numbskulls have to lie to their brainwashed public that they're actually doing other nations a favor. Why didn't they name the campaign "Operation US Interest"? Give me break.
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Noth Korean problem will be solved through mediation with the Chinese, Russians and the Japanese. Mostly by the chinese ASk me why, Chanda. Because a conflagaration of hostilities in teh KOrean peninsula means that 8% y/y growth for China is gone. In the Manufacturing led economy, if FDI goes away to oher places due to wart or whatever...it rarely comes back.
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Saving the world from Nuclear threat (the immediate threat they're always talking about) should be done at any cost according to the Washington morons. The fact is that the US went into Iraq because they knew Iraq didn't have any weapons. Had Saddam been waving nuclear weapons in front of Bush's face like little Kim is doing, the US would still be trying to set up dialogues.
Now this immediate threat from little kim can apparently reach the US (Is that immediate enough for you?), and therefore the Washington cowards are peeing their pants.
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You have much to learn..I would recomend you stop cutting and pasting sound bite articles and go sit in a class somewhere where you can learn about how the world works.
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Sorry galaxy boy, I'm comfortable with my knowledge of the world, and unlike you, my world doesn't end at my borders, like the terrorists that govern you program their public to believe.
