US calls for immediate release of diplomat in Pakistan

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not really, its more likely to be truth than conspiracy... if you know the area where he killed two guys and got caught with arms (with special ammunition, wireless and other sophisticated instruments) and specially a large sum of money, and his acceptance that he was there on a mission, and him roaming around in a car with fake number plate and other stuff clearly shows that he was there planning for another terrorist attack in the city... just like sever incidents earlier in lahore and elsewhere...

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but this case is different. the court must make a decision soon. :slight_smile:

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amrikeees and stupid conspiracies... that would also become fun to read man. i wonder why some propagandists wandetr around to sekk threads to propagate against pakistan which surely tells their enemity with pakistan.

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سب سے پہلے يہ بتانا ضروری سمجھتا ہوں کہ ڈيوس کے
سفارتی سٹیٹس کے بارے ميں کوئ شک نہیں ہے۔
اور امريکی سفارتکار پاکستان کی سالميت کو نقصان نہيں پہنچا رہے ہیں
جيسا کہ کئ لوگ اس بارے ميں بے بنياد الزامات لگاتے ہیں
بلکہ وہ پاکستان کے لوگوں
اور حکومت کے ساتھ مل کر دونوں ملکوں کے مابين مضبوط اور
ديرپا اشتراک کار کے فروغ کے ليے کام کر رہے ہيں۔

ميں آپ کو يہ بھی باور کروانا چاہتا ہوں کہ پاکستان ميں رہنے اور کام کرنے والا ہر امريکی شہری
حکومت پاکستان سے منظور شدہ ويزے کی بنياد پر کام کر رہا ہے۔
پاکستان کے حکومتی اہلکاروں نے عالمی قوانين اور
روايات کے عين مطابق انھيں يہاں رہنے اور کام کرنے کی مکمل اجازت دی ہے۔

جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے بھی يہ کہا ہے کہ جنوری 2010 ميں امريکی سفارتخانے نے
پاکستانی حکومت کو واضع طور پر بتايا تھا کہ يہ سفارتکار اسلام آباد ميں امريکی سفارت خانے
سے وابسطہ ہے اور اس کے پاس سفارتی پاسپورٹ ہے، اس کے پاس ويانا کنونشن 1961ء کے
تحت سفارتی استثنی ہے اور اس کو جون 2012 تک پاکستانی ويزہ بھی حاصل ہے۔

خقیقت يہ ہے کہ پاکستانی حکومت نے اس کے عہدے کو مسترد نہیں کيا تھا اس ليے
اسے بين لاقوامی قانون کے تحت مکمل سفارتی استثنی حاصل ہے۔ يہ بھی ياد رکھنے
والی بات ہے کہ سفارتی استثنی کے بارے ميں شک و شبہات کی گنجائش نہیں ہے
لہذا پاکستانی حکومت کو چاہيے کہ وہ اس سلسلے ميں اپنی زمہ داری نبھاۓ۔

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^ jo aap kahayn sir ji wohi sach hay, aap kahayn to isay pathar pe likh deyn? :D

Whatever you guys say, the truth has been found out by journalists and mentioned by FO Pakistan, you can cover it up in US media but not everywhere ;)

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next time do try to add some sense in your post, otherwise there is a forum for jokes, you can post there…

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like someone said in another thread,** “YES PIGS CAN FLY”**

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aur jo amriki newspapers usay CIA Agent bta rahay hein kia wo ullu hein ya phir amriki hakumat pagal hai?

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[note]Please try to post in English which is the language of the forum which is used also by a lot of expatriate Pakistanis who have difficulty in reading Urdu..[/note]

Secondly the matter is not that simple and obvious as you are trying to project that there is no dispute on the legal status of Mr. Davis as a diplomat. Please read the following article published in “The New” today authored by one of the most brilliant young lawyers of our country who was incidentally educated at Harvard law School, one of the most prestigious Law schools of your country. Please read the red bold part which gives you an expert legal opinion on how the immunity is determined which you and your government are very conveniently taking for granted, and using every ethical and non ethical method to claim, totally disregarding the local and international laws..

Babar Sattar
Saturday, February 26, 2011

In calling a CIA contractor of the Blackwater/Xe variety discharging no diplomatic duties and responsible for killing two Pakistani citizens pointblank, “our diplomat in Pakistan,” the US President was certainly disingenuous, if not deceitful. Even more shameful has been the unionised agreement of mainstream US media not to disclose the truth about Davis, while being aware of it, at the Obama administration’s request. Do the New York Times and the Washington Post owe it to the US administration to manipulate facts and give effect to the official US national security doctrine, or do they primarily owe allegiance to the truth?

The Raymond Davis affair, and the response it has elicited from the US and Pakistani governments as well as the media, exposes the frozen mindsets our states and societies remain mired in.** What we are witnessing is megalomania dressed as patriotism.** Through its handling of the Davis case, the US has reiterated its selective adherence to rule of law and the concept of sovereign equality that backs the doctrine of diplomatic immunity. Starting with the US president and secretary of state, US officials have made no bones about their willingness to use all other means fair or foul – from threats and manipulation of facts to financial incentives – to get their way on the Davis issue.

The trappings of power are incredibly intoxicating, even more so in the Third World where the ordinary Joe seems awed by authority. The paramount incentive to acquire power, for the neighborhood ruffian as well as those in the highest echelons, is to possess the ability to flout law and due process. And the inability of the powerful to get their way, whether right or wrong, makes them mad. In Pakistan, we understand this sentiment well. While we hate those who can flout their muscle and rise above the law, we secretly wish for similar preferential treatment so long as anyone else is getting it. We want rule of law. But till we get it in an unadulterated form, we want to be part of the crowd that can flout it. But such duplicity doesn’t make us comfortable with the powerful rubbing the noses of lesser humans in dirt. It makes us angry.

We are angry at our own elites putting the rest of us down, but interestingly, even more so at western powers treating our elites as poodles. We forget to attribute responsibility to our own who are willingly auctioning their souls to the devil. Our sense of disempowerment convinces us that our elites, when in power, have no option but to sell out. There is a sense that none of us are free agents with a will to make choices, but pigmies who don’t even possess the ability to comprehend our own manipulation at the hands of others. Feeble self-esteem coupled with an unshaken belief in the omnipotence attributed to the US disables us from apportioning blame proportionately and judiciously when it comes to Pakistani elites working hand-in-glove with US administrations to promote their self-interest and US state agenda. Many of us then call such lack of objectivity nationalism.

Being a CIA agent doesn’t disable Davis from claiming diplomatic immunity. The law on the issue is clear. The primary question that needs to be answered is whether, as a US representative, Davis was covered under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations or the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The former provides immunity to members of the diplomatic mission, including administrative and technical staff, against criminal prosecution. The latter provides general immunity, but not “in the case of a grave crime pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority”. The legal status of Davis as a member of the US diplomatic mission in Pakistan or a Consulate-General rests on what was stated in the notification issued by the US to Pakistan’s foreign office in regard to Davis prior to the shootings in Lahore.

Both conventions rely on this notification. Whether Davis’ passport is a diplomatic or a regular one or whether his Pakistani visa reads official or business are ancillary details. A foreign official is clothed with immunity at the time that the sending state issues a notification that the receiving state accepts without objection. The US cannot confer immunity on Davis by notifying him as a member of the diplomatic mission ex post facto. And Pakistan cannot denude him of immunity that he otherwise enjoyed in accordance with any notification issued by the US regarding his status prior to the shootings. The outcome of the immunity debate thus rests on facts and will have to be determined by the courts in Pakistan. But the judiciousness of such outcome will depend on the ability of the Pakistani state to present unadulterated facts to the court.

Johan Galtung posited the structural theory of imperialism almost half a century back to explain the tremendous inequality within and between nations. At the risk of simplifying (with apologies to Galtung), he saw the world as well as each nation divided into a center and a periphery with the center comprising elites and ordinary people forming the periphery. He argued that imperialism is a structural relationship whereby the center in the dominating nation works in concert with the center in the dominated nation for the mutual benefit of the both. This creates a vertical relationship between the dominating nation and the dominated nation together with a conflict of interest between the center and the periphery of the dominated nation.

In other words, structured domination rests on the alliance between elites or power wielders in the Third World with elites or power wielders of a superpower to serve the interests of both elites and the interests of the superpower at the expense of ordinary people in the Third World. The theory helps explain the historically cozy relationship between the Pakistani political and military elites and successive US administrations on the one hand and growing anti-American sentiment on the streets of Pakistan on the other. Does the Raymond Davis case suggest that Galtung’s world is now changing with multiple centers of power and elites emerging within the dominated states like Pakistan – such as an independent media and a reformist judiciary – not amenable to be wooed into a relationship of structural dependence by global powers?

Or is the Raymond Davis case a mere aberration – a consequence of a temporary turf war between the elites in the center and the periphery (the ISI and the CIA in this case)? What if Raymond Davis had the exact same legal status and had killed the two Pakistanis just the way he did, but the CIA had kept the ISI informed about his real identity and scope of work? Would he still be arrested and tried for murder? Would the federal government have dithered in granting immunity if the ISI and the Khakis weren’t breathing down its neck? Is this really about rule of law and the value of Pakistani life or a nasty ego feud between faceless elites in the US and Pakistan?

One fears it is the latter because the US still illegally controls airstrips in Pakistan and conducts predator strikes that claim Pakistani lives more indiscriminately than the Lahore shooting. And while parliament cries hoarse over drone attacks, there is no parliamentary or judicial inquiry into who authorises them or why they continue. Now that the failure of the US and Pakistani elites to preserve their harmony of interest on the Davis affair has flagged the issue, we need to ask ourselves critical questions about the nature of the relationship between the US and Pakistani elites and insist on revisiting our concepts of national security, patriotism and strategic partnership such that they serve the interests of the ordinary Pakistani squeezed into the periphery.

The writer is a lawyer based in Islamabad. Email: [email protected]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/world/asia/26pakistan.html?_r=1&hp

Pakistan Demands Data on C.I.A. Contractors

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan’s chief spy agency has demanded an accounting by the Central Intelligence Agency of all its contractors working in Pakistan, a fallout from the arrest last month of an American involved in surveillance of militant groups, a senior Pakistani intelligence official said Friday.

Angered that the American, Raymond A. Davis, worked as a contractor in Pakistan on covert C.I.A. operations without the knowledge of the Pakistanis, the spy agency estimated that there were “scores” more such contractors “working behind our backs,” said the official, who requested anonymity in order to speak candidly about a delicate matter between the two countries.

In a slight softening of the Pakistani stance since Mr. Davis’s arrest, the official said that the American and Pakistani intelligence agencies needed to continue cooperation, and that Pakistan was prepared to put the episode in the past if the C.I.A. stopped treating its Pakistani counterparts as inferior.

“Treat us as allies, not as satellites,” said the official of the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI. “Respect, equality and trust are needed.”

George Little, a C.I.A. spokesman, said the American spy agency’s ties to the ISI “have been strong over the years, and when there are issues to sort out, we work through them.”

“That’s the sign of a healthy partnership,” Mr. Little said.

The arrest and detention of Mr. Davis, 36, after he shot and killed two motorcyclists in Lahore soured already testy relations between two governments that are supposed to have a common front in the fight against terrorism.

The top American and Pakistani military leaders, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, and the leader of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, met this week in Oman, where the Davis case was discussed.

According to a report by a former head of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Jehangir Karamat, who runs a research and analysis center based in Lahore, both sides agreed to try to “arrest the downhill descent.”

Even so, the Pakistani intelligence community was divided over how quickly to settle the Davis case and how much to extract from the C.I.A., said a Pakistani official with intimate knowledge of the situation, who declined to be named because of the delicacy of the issue.

At a minimum, the ISI wants an accounting of all the contractors who work for the C.I.A. in roles that have not been defined to Pakistan and a general rewriting of the rules of engagement by the C.I.A. in Pakistan, the official said.

In another sign that the two spy services were trying to patch up their differences, Leon E. Panetta, the director of the C.I.A., spoke on Wednesday with Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the ISI director, about resolving Mr. Davis’s case, American and Pakistani officials said on Friday. Mr. Davis, who appeared in handcuffs on Friday for a hearing in a closed courtroom at the jail where he is being held in Lahore, faces possible murder charges.

The Obama administration insists that Mr. Davis has diplomatic immunity and should be released. The Pakistani government has left the determination on diplomatic immunity to the Foreign Office and a hearing before the Lahore High Court on March 14.

Some senior Pakistani intelligence officers were unwilling to have Mr. Davis released under almost any circumstances, said the official with knowledge of the split in the intelligence community.

He said others wanted to use the Davis case as a bargaining chip to get the withdrawal of a civil lawsuit filed in Brooklyn last year that implicates the ISI chief, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, in the November 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India.

The demand for the C.I.A. to acknowledge the number of contractors in Pakistan was driven by the suspicion that the American spy service had slipped many such secret operatives into Pakistan in the past six months, the senior ISI official said.

The increase occurred after a directive last July by the Pakistani civilian government, which is often at odds with the ISI, to its Washington embassy to expedite visas without supervision from the ISI or the Ministry of Interior, the senior ISI official said.

The behavior of people like Mr. Davis is deeply embarrassing to the ISI because it makes the agency “look like fools” in the eyes of the anti-American Pakistani public, the ISI official said.

The Davis case made it hard to explain to Pakistanis why the ISI was cooperating with Washington, he said.

The clampdown on American contractors by the Pakistani authorities appeared to be under way Friday with the arrest of an American citizen, Aaron Mark DeHaven, in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

The Peshawar police said Mr. DeHaven was detained because he had overstayed his business visa after his request for an extension last October was turned down.

There was no immediate accusation that Mr. DeHaven worked for the American government, a security official in Peshawar said. But the arrest of Mr. DeHaven, who is married to a Pakistani woman, appears to be a signal that the Pakistani authorities have decided to expel Americans they have doubts about.

The security official said Mr. DeHaven owned a firm, Catalyst Services in Peshawar, that rented houses for Americans in the city.

The American Embassy in Islamabad said in a statement that it did not have details about Mr. DeHaven but that it was arranging consular access for him through the Pakistani government.

During his first months in Pakistan in early 2010, Mr. Davis, the contractor for the C.I.A., was attached to the American Consulate in Peshawar and lived in a house with other Americans in an upscale neighborhood, according to Pakistani officials.

At the 20-minute court hearing on Friday, Mr. Davis told the judge he would not take part in the proceedings because he had diplomatic immunity, Pakistani officials told reporters later.

He refused to sign the charge sheet presented to him, the officials said. The Obama administration insists that Mr. Davis acted in self-defense when the two motorcyclists tried to rob him.

In the charge sheet, the Pakistani police said Mr. Davis shot the motorcyclists multiple times from inside his car, and then stepped from the car and continued shooting with his Glock pistol. Mr. Davis then drove from the scene and was arrested several miles away, the police said.

At Friday Prayers in Lahore and in Islamabad, the capital, anti-American sermons, in some cases laced with references to Mr. Davis, were common.

Hafiz Saeed, the founder of the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which Mr. Davis is believed to have been conducting surveillance on, said the American was “a spy, committing terrorism, helping in drone attacks.”

Banners reading “Hang Davis” and “No immunity to Davis” were strung across the road adjacent to Mr. Saeed’s headquarters.

Ismail Khan contributed reporting from Peshawar, Pakistan, and Waqar Gillani from Lahore, Pakistan.

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Pakistan is not in full control of the country if America can do what it likes whenever and wherever it likes.

Time to eject the American Raj out of pakistan!

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Now this is interesting :@:

Raymond Davis ‘was acting head of CIA in Pakistan’

A US intelligence agent arrested after shooting dead two men was the acting head of the CIA in Pakistan and had been gathering intelligence for drone attacks, according to intelligence sources.

By Rob Crilly, Islamabad 4:33PM GMT 22 Feb 2011

Raymond Davis, a 36-year-old former special forces soldier, had taken command after the CIA station chief’s cover was blown, according to reports.

American officials insist he is entitled to diplomatic immunity and that he be released immediately.
Davis has been held for almost a month in a Lahore prison while a court decides his status.
The case has provoked a surge in anti-American hostility and spawned a wave of conspiracy theories.
Many Pakistanis have questioned whether Davis was really the victim of an attempted robbery – as he told police – and exactly why he was driving around Lahore with a Glock handgun in a rented car.

This week it emerged that he was employed by the CIA and that he was engaged in an undercover operation.

On Tuesday The Nation newspaper, which has close links to Pakistan’s military establishment, claimed one of his main tasks was to keep the CIA network intact in the tribal agencies, where al-Qaeda-linked militants maintain bases, and that he was familiar with their local languages.

Pakistan authorities say they recovered items including a make-up kit, long-range radio, a GPRS system and a camera containing photographs of sensitive locations.

Telephone records suggest he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the Pakistan Taliban in South Waziristan.

Even Pakistan’s spies say they had no idea what Davis was doing in Lahore.
A senior intelligence source told The Daily Telegraph he was unknown to Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate and was operating outside the normal agreements between the two countries.
“We want the US to come clean on what exactly he was up to,” he said.

American officials initially said Mr Davis worked for the US consulate in Lahore before claiming he worked for the embassy in Islamabad, and was entitled to full immunity.

However, The New York Times on Monday reported that Davis was part of a CIA operation tracking Islamist extremists in eastern Pakistan, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, the virulently anti-Indian group blamed for the bloody 2008 siege of Mumbai.

Opposition politicians and relatives of Davis’s victims said the government should address suspicions that he also worked for Xe, a US security firm formerly known as Blackwater.

“Davis deserves no pardon … We knew from day one that he was working for the CIA and Blackwater,” said Mohammad Waseem, brother of Mohammad Faheem.

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http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/28/spy-war-threatens-pakistan-us-ties.html

Spy war threatens Pakistan-US ties

**ISLAMABAD: Four weeks into the Raymond Davis affair, an ongoing and very public spat between the ISI and the CIA threatens to engulf the fraught relationship between Washington and Islamabad.
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Partners in the war on militancy, the two spy agencies have never had an easy relationship. But ties hit a new low after the revelation that Davis was part of a clandestine CIA network operating in Pakistani cities.

“We feel betrayed by the CIA operations behind our back,” said an ISI official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

ISI officials claim more than 50 CIA agents are still active in the country and are involved in intensive intelligence gathering without the knowledge of the ISI. “The Davis affair is just a tip of the iceberg,” commented one senor official.

The tensions were further set to escalate in recent days when the ISI prepared a statement — held back from publication at the last moment — in which the agency accused the CIA of being ‘arrogant’ and not showing ‘respect to the host country’.

The unprecedented riposte was meant to counter a comment made by an unidentified CIA official to an American newspaper that the ISI had suspended its cooperation.

However, repeated telephone contacts between CIA chief Leon Panetta and his Pakistani counterpart, Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha, in the past week helped prevent a complete breakdown in the relationship.

The meeting last week in Oman between General Kayani and the top US military leadership also helped lower tensions. Although the Oman meeting had been long planned to review the situation in Afghanistan, discussions also focused on the fallout of the detention of the CIA contractor on the relations between the two allies.
According to some high-level sources, the meeting showed the determination of both sides not to let the Davis affair bring down the strategic ties between the two countries. “Sanity has prevailed,” claimed an ISI official.

Relations between the ISI and the CIA, rebuilt after 9/11, have been close in some areas, but a deep mistrust on both sides has remained. “It was a dysfunctional marriage at best,” conceded a Pakistani official.

In recent months, the tensions had once again escalated. A summons issued against Gen Pasha to appear in a New York court in connection with a private lawsuit centring on the Mumbai attacks was followed by the unmasking of the identity of the CIA station chief in Islamabad, forcing him to leave Pakistan.

But even before, for at least the past couple of years, some Pakistani newspapers have been publishing stories leaked by the ISI regarding the influx of US security contractors in large numbers. “They have to dismantle those networks if they really want our cooperation,” said an ISI official. “We have warned them that they cannot do things behind our backs.”

At present, there are some indications Washington is increasingly looking towards the Pakistani military leadership to help resolve the Davis affair. A possible reason is a feeling in Washington that the civilian government here is too weak and unpopular to deliver on the Davis issue.

Further complicating the issue, however, are the divergences between the civil and military leaderships in Pakistan. The military and the ISI now publicly criticise the civilian government’s decision to relax visa policies, a move that has led, according to the military, to scores of undercover US intelligence officials entering the country.

An ISI official claimed that 400 visa applications were processed by Pakistan’s embassy in Washington over a single weekend after the government on July 14, 2010, removed the requirement for intelligence vetting.
But some senior government officials privately blame the ISI for trying to instigate public opinion on the Davis issue.

The multiple power centres in the country has been a major reason for the Davis affair becoming a politically volatile issue, making it more difficult to find a diplomatic solution.

After an initial tough position, the Obama administration seemed willing to step back and negotiate an out of court settlement that would have included a public apology for the incident, the promise of a criminal investigation into the killings under US laws and the payment of compensation to the families of the victims.
But now, four weeks into the crisis, a resolution appears as distant as ever. Privately American diplomats believe it may take months for the Davis issue to be resolved.

“And it will take years to repair the damage the issue has done to Pak-US relations,” said an American diplomat.

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http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/28/investigation-scope-broadened-in-davis’-case-45-arrested.html

Forty-five arrested for having links with Davis

ISLAMABAD: The law enforcement agencies arrested 45 individuals for staying in constant contact with Raymond Davis, a CIA contractor who shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore last month, DawnNews reported on Monday.

The individuals had been arrested from Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar and their contact information was taken from Davis’ mobile phone. Investigations were underway.

On January 27, Raymond Davis, a staffer at the US consulate-general in Lahore, shot dead two Pakistani men who he said were trying to rob him in broad daylight on the streets of the city.

A third Pakistani was run over and killed by a US consular vehicle coming to aid Davis, who was instead taken into Pakistani police custody.

But in what has become a political time-bomb, the government in Islamabad is under enormous domestic pressure to see Davis go on trial and local lawyers argue that diplomatic immunity can be waived for grave crimes.

The deaths sparked protests in Pakistan, where the alliance with Washington is hugely unpopular and anti-American sentiment runs high, fuelled by US missile attacks on militants in the northwest.

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ہم پاکستان کی خود مختاری اور قانون کا مکمل احترام کرتے ہيں اور اس بات کی توقع رکھتے ہيں کہ ہماری حکومت کے تمام نمايندے ميزبان ملک کے قوانين کا احترام ملحوظ رکھيں۔ ہميں اس بات کا بھی ادراک ہے کہ پاکستان میں عدالتی نظام مکمل طور پر فعال اور آزاد ہے۔

میں آپ کو ياد دلا دوں کہ اس وقت بھی 5 امريکی شہری دہشت گردی کے مقدمے ميں پاکستان ميں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کی تحويل ميں 10 سال کی قيد کاٹ رہے ہيں۔امريکی حکومت نے اپنے ان شہریوں کو کونسل خانے کی حد تک رسائ اور مدد ضرور فراہم کی تھی ليکن ہم نے کسی بھی موقع پر قانونی کاروائ ميں مداخلت نہيں کی اور نہ ہی پاکستان کے عدالتی نظام پر کسی قسم کے عدم اعتماد کا اظہار کيا تھا۔ اس کے علاوہ امريکی حکومت کی جانب سے ان امريکی شہريوں کی رہائ کے حوالے سے بھی کوئ مطالبہ نہيں کيا گيا تھا۔

ليکن اس وقت گرفتار امريکی شہری کا معاملہ سفارتی استثنی کے باعث پاکستان کے عدالتی نظام کے دائرے اختيار ميں نہيں آتا۔ جيسا کہ صدر اوبامہ نے خود اس بات کو واضح کيا ہے کہ اس معاملے ميں ايک بڑا اصول داؤ پر ہے۔

ويانا کنونشن کے آرٹيکل 37 کے تحت سفارت خانے کے انتظامی اور تکنيکی عملے کو کسی بھی قانونی کاروائ سے مکمل استثنی حاصل ہے اور انھیں قانونی طور پر نہ ہی گرفتار کيا جا سکتا ہے اور نہ ہی قيد کيا جا سکتا ہے۔ ويانا کنونشں کے تحت ميزبان رياست کو يہ اختيار نہيں ہوتا کہ وہ سفارتی استثنی کو ختم کر سکے۔

جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے واضح کيا تھا کہ امريکی سفارت کار کی رہائ کا مطالبہ اسی سفارتی استثنی کی بنياد پر ہے جس کی درخواست ہم کسی بھی دوسرے ملک ميں بھی کرتے۔ اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ ہم پاکستان ميں عدالتوں پر اعتماد نہيں کرتے يا ان کا احترام ملحوظ نہيں رکھ رہے

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Re: US calls for immediate release of diplomat in Pakistan

ہم پاکستان کی خود مختاری اور قانون کا مکمل احترام کرتے ہيں اور اس بات کی توقع رکھتے ہيں کہ ہماری حکومت کے تمام نمايندے ميزبان ملک کے قوانين کا احترام ملحوظ رکھيں۔ ہميں اس بات کا بھی ادراک ہے کہ پاکستان میں عدالتی نظام مکمل طور پر فعال اور آزاد ہے۔

میں آپ کو ياد دلا دوں کہ اس وقت بھی 5 امريکی شہری دہشت گردی کے مقدمے ميں پاکستان ميں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کی تحويل ميں 10 سال کی قيد کاٹ رہے ہيں۔امريکی حکومت نے اپنے ان شہریوں کو کونسل خانے کی حد تک رسائ اور مدد ضرور فراہم کی تھی ليکن ہم نے کسی بھی موقع پر قانونی کاروائ ميں مداخلت نہيں کی اور نہ ہی پاکستان کے عدالتی نظام پر کسی قسم کے عدم اعتماد کا اظہار کيا تھا۔ اس کے علاوہ امريکی حکومت کی جانب سے ان امريکی شہريوں کی رہائ کے حوالے سے بھی کوئ مطالبہ نہيں کيا گيا تھا۔

ليکن اس وقت گرفتار امريکی شہری کا معاملہ سفارتی استثنی کے باعث پاکستان کے عدالتی نظام کے دائرے اختيار ميں نہيں آتا۔ جيسا کہ صدر اوبامہ نے خود اس بات کو واضح کيا ہے کہ اس معاملے ميں ايک بڑا اصول داؤ پر ہے۔

ويانا کنونشن کے آرٹيکل 37 کے تحت سفارت خانے کے انتظامی اور تکنيکی عملے کو کسی بھی قانونی کاروائ سے مکمل استثنی حاصل ہے اور انھیں قانونی طور پر نہ ہی گرفتار کيا جا سکتا ہے اور نہ ہی قيد کيا جا سکتا ہے۔ ويانا کنونشں کے تحت ميزبان رياست کو يہ اختيار نہيں ہوتا کہ وہ سفارتی استثنی کو ختم کر سکے۔

جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے واضح کيا تھا کہ امريکی سفارت کار کی رہائ کا مطالبہ اسی سفارتی استثنی کی بنياد پر ہے جس کی درخواست ہم کسی بھی دوسرے ملک ميں بھی کرتے۔ اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ ہم پاکستان ميں عدالتوں پر اعتماد نہيں کرتے يا ان کا احترام ملحوظ نہيں رکھ رہے۔

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Zulfiqar Sb, congratulations!!! 12 people actually 'like' your facebook page.

If an ISI agent killed a couple of American citizens in Chicago and try to flee, would he be covered under vienna convention?

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Answer can be found here.

Re: US calls for immediate release of diplomat in Pakistan

It’s pointless trying to fight the western hypocritic double standards these days… if an ISI agent did that they would claim it to be state sponsored terrorism :cb:

Re: US calls for immediate release of diplomat in Pakistan

actually what happened on 27th january, and what has been happening in the past few years in Pakistan, all this IS STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM, sponsored by UNITED STATED OF AMERICA…

and you Mr-Zulfiqar-the-american-mouth, take your screwed up double standards somewhere else, we are not buying…