Urdu as our national langauge

[muqawwee123]

Re: Urdu as our national langauge

@queer

muqawwee, most of it is symbolic BS, and the system is still inherently biased against those who aren’t native hindi-speakers. 90% of educated indians have been taught to understand that hindi is india’s national language and the rest are “regional languages” - while in reality, the constitution calls them all “national languages” and doesn’t give any special status to hindi.

indian parliament is afflicted with hordes of elected uneducated imbeciles hailing from the hindi-belt. the equivalent uneducated imbeciles from other areas dont make it far in the national scene because without knowing hindi or english you simply can’t get too far in national politics, and even english alone is not enough. Thus you end up with Sakshi Maharajs, laloo parsads, Uma Bhartis as ministers, when they wont even be dishwashers anywhere else.

Sometimes, symbolic BS is necessary to avoid controversies. At least, a student who has a scheduled language as his / her mother tongue, can use the language as medium of instruction in India. Using a language as medium of instruction lead to survival of language by producing literature. I have come across translation of Marathi, Malyalam, Punjabi books (published in India) in English / Urdu and they are producing really good literature highlighting problems their relevant areas. At least, these minority language speakers in India does not have to face racist remarks like ‘you hate national language, because you are insisting on your less developed language against the sophisticated national language’.

@Anjul

@muqawwee123 haha this forum is an excellent one, thanks to it’s team. Discussions here are good, we can without hasitation express our views, know things and we try to think what perhaps we never had thought. Undisclosed identity also helps in discuss freely. Many good things, now on topic. These scheduled languages are majore languages used by 91% of the total population of the country. To know benefit we should also know the need. Need: there were a number of spoken languages (some 1652, correct me if wrong) with no significant proportion except some so there was a need to recognise some languages as a medium of official communication to avoid cofusion.

So India acknowledged languages spoken by 91% population and Pakistan rejected right for more than half population at the very beginning. Some people still try to justify these actions by referring to political and economic suppression (which is also a dominant factor), but when its about suppression of expression (which directly relates to language), they go aaen baen shaen. If you simply ask such people ‘was the decision of only one language inspite of agitation by Bengalis right one?’. You will never get a simple ‘Yes’ / ‘No’ answer even today.

@Anjul

@muqawwee123 Hindi including it’s similar variants Urdu and Hindustani could claim 46% so chosen official language of the Union. Now for development of Hindi as medium of expression for all the elements of the composite culture of India, the assimilation of the expression used in the other languages (those languages which were specified in Eight schedule) was started.

This is how languages develop by adapting other languages and Urdu also got words for all the languages of Pakistan.

@Anjul

@muqawwee123 Benefits: development of Hindi. Official language commission constitutes representative of languages in eight schedule. This commision makes important recommendations like official language of Union, language for communication between Union & the States or b/n one state and another, language issues, inrichment of Hindi means evolution of terminology for scientific, administrative and procedural literature etc

What are the organisations which are working for promotion of languages in India? I know about NCPUL.

@ajazali

The book was banned people didnt even bother. but a guy writes a book and it becomes expression of radical punjabi nationalism. Height of generalization.

The book was written (not one book but many. These were few examples). That means there exists a faction, which consider that Punjabi has been ignored. The point is simple as that. Generalization exist every where. If Sindhis can be termed as xenophobic for loving their language and culture, then coming a book from Punjabi writer terming Urdu as man-eating language can also lead to any generalisation for Punjabi mindset. If you ask me, I personally hate such generalizations as these are mere expression of insecurities by people who come up with such generalisation. Otherwise, if you love your language and own your culture, you are bound to respect others as well.