Urdu as our national langauge

  • 48% speak Punjabi, mainly in eastern Punjab province
  • 12% speak Sindhi, mainly in south eastern Sindh province
  • 10% speak Saraiki, a variant of Punjabi
  • 8% speak Pashto, in west and north western Pakistan
  • 8% speak Urdu
  • 3% speak Balochi, mainly in Balochistan
  • English is the most popular among government ministries

8% rules the rest. Even then, urdu speaking crowd (AKA Muhajir) complained that they were sidelined.

I see Urdu as national language of Pakistan, being an unfair policy.

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Mr. OP, why you so regional racist? Your nick itself is like Pakistani/indian political parties.. ANP, MQM, BJP....TLK

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Make English your national language...or...Chinese in a decade or so.

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TLK Happy New Year and All the best :biggthumb:

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Lets start a petition on GS to make Punjabi national language of Pakistan :woho:

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Follow the Indian Formula/model:

Urdu - national language
English - Working Language
Regional Language

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Do you all lovers of urdu know wut you call "Engineering" in urdu? Now dont try to google

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Punjab's literary language before partition was Urdu. The only language that died was Hindi as Lahore railway station would have Urdu and English signs instead of Hindi there.

The only big province where it used its apt named language was sindh.

PS sideling as you say had to do with economic issues. Are you really trolling on new year's eve?

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I agree with you Sir Donald Duck

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Lahore's literary language maybe was Urdu, not Punjab's. Do you really think that kisaan of chuck chotaalee knows his urdu well enough to do Likhaa Parath with the Patwari of that tehseel in Urdu? But he has to. That poor guys probably does not even know what he is signing on. Same with FIR that has to be written in Urdu.

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Urdu is very widely spoken in Pakistan. It is the one language that is easily understood in almost every part. I have traveled extensively in Pakistan

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Train stations kay naam punjabi main honay chahiye… :hehe:

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Happy New year Muqawwee .

hmna, that is not true

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*science-i mistery. *
*Sciency kareger. *

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I am all for urdu as national language.
But its not going to be like ser me danda style fix.

Like at* mamoon rashid* time, translations started(from greek to arabic) which lasted for 200 years.
We need to translate stuff into urdu... Get urdu keyboards etc ... lots of work need to be done.
lets go .. lets go..

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yes, yeh lijiye:

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I think the respect comes more from general public whether its language or culture.
Some people are happy to adopt it while some do it only as "majboori".

In my childhood when i once visited Peshawar. I remember we tried to get a cab, and none of them knew urdu. Eventually i found one ofcourse.
Also, i remember my neighbors who were from Chinniot, Punjab. We had relations like real relatives. They used to talk with their children in urdu while adults in Punjabi. Their point was that urdu is more respectable lang so they want children to be well-versed in urdu first.
On the other hand i also worked with some people who used to give a reply of urdu question in punjabi even though they knew urdu ofcourse. So it all depends upon how we all want to promote it.

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Keep it mind that Urdu is spoken as first language by 8% of Pakistanis in 2015. Just imagine what the percentage would be in 1947. It was hardly 4%, and about 80% of that was because of newly migrated people, which means that it rose from less than 0.5% to 4% in few weeks maybe.

Now just imagine that scenario happening today. Pakistan's current population is about 182 millions. Imagine that 4% of that - about 8 million Syrians migrate to Pakistan today, and expect Pakistan to officially switch to Arabic from tomorrow. How ridiculous that would be? That is exactly what happened in 1947.

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So, we already jave arabic tv stations, radio channels and poets do poetry in arabic?

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No doubt Urdu has become lingua franca of Pakistan and rightly so, as it has ability to adapt vocabulary of all the languages. But the point OP is making here is different. The point which was not understood by founding fathers as well. Before British conquered different parts that formed part of Pakistan, each part has their national languages, which are now sidelined by terming them regional languages. These all languages got strong tradition of literature. British also promoted certain languages. Being Sindhi and having some knowledge of Sindhi literature, I’m aware that no one promoted Sindhi like British. They developed its new alphabets, compiled its folk literature and made that necessary for British officials of Sindh to interact with locals in their mother tongue. They could have imposed English forcibly, but they considered ground realities and made no such efforts.

Why not. In Sindh, we got names of Railway Stations in 3 languages. But Pakistani Punjab did not develop separate alphabet and they use Urdu alphabet for writing Punjabi. I think there are many words in Punjai like Sohniya (as nawan aaya sohniya), which can’t be written properly in Urdu.

Muhandis is the Urdu word derived from Arabic. Did not refer any dictionary. Just a memory from 8th class Arabic.

Agreed. Urdu should have been developed for scientific research and translation. There were efforts in last 2 decades of 20th century, where they introduced various science magazines in Urdu. Also Urdu Science Board was established, but we don’t see any active contribution of this. Now, we have sort of agreed that Science and Technology should be read in English, so stopped making more efforts.

Which state this board from? Punjab? what 3 languages have been used on that board?

You summarised the point as they say ‘darya ko kooze main band karna’. Every nation got different level of attachment with the mother tongue and its their collective right to do what they like. Like I have been listening to comments on these very forums that Sindhis determination to have their language on their CNIC is deRh inch ki masjid and by demanding so they belittle Urdu. Not all people can talk in Urdu in rural parts of Pakistan. Just visit a government hospital in any big city of Pakistan and you will know how difficult it is for people to communicate their problem when they do not find any one who can understand their mother tongue.

Urdu should have been accepted as national language, but other languages which were used as mother tongue in other provinces should have been promoted without creating controversies. This would definitely have avoided linguistic riots, language movements which created bitter memories for various communities.

Bengalis were definitely majority and everyone knows how the language issue was dealt in early years of independence. Though many would claim that the matter was resolved later, but wasn’t that better to avoid such controversies at begging. I don’t think India did so for imposing Hindi on any other language and while there might be history of communal riots in India, I don’t know any of language riots there, while India have obviously more languages than Pakistan.