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[Catskin]

Re: Unmarried guys

@chaibiskut

Not sure how this specifically addresses anything I’ve said. Let’s examine “gender has to mean something.” What does gender mean for a woman living in a backwater pind with no access to the court systems? What consolation is “equality of spirit” to her? One has to be insulated by privilege to state a religious/enlightened mind doesn’t bother to attain equality in this world. What does that even mean? For that matter the chasm between the haves and have nots will always exist, why even attempt to redistribute wealth via charity? I’m no one to tell a woman to wait until she dies to receive justice. What principles do we live by while we’re alive? If equality, or attempting to level the playing field, or widening the berth for accountability doesn’t mean/promote justice, then what does? Does inequality mean justice then? What facilitates justice? The argument isn’t that men and women are identical (as opposed to spiritually equal), but how is making divorce more difficult for the weaker/vulnerable sex just? How does “God’s purpose for us” address the right of verbal divorce vs. having to file in court? How does the “meaning of gender” speak to the Sahih Hadiths that deem women emotionally volatile and mentally deficient as the basis for certain Shariah rulings? Interesting bit is that even Pakistani courts, to their credit, acknowledge these are real issues, does not apologize for them, and are constantly revising their approach.

I’m not making a value judgement when I say men are created a degree over women. It is a fact stated in the Quran. Hence the male principle IS prioritized. You seem to agree with the same when you entertain the fact that all religions are patriarchal.

ps. Ditto on women holding each other in contempt. We may be our own worst enemies. The moment we see another woman going against the grain there exists an instinctive need to reign her in.

ugh…I wrote a long reply and it just logged me out. I’m not gonna bother arguing now, I don’t agree with everything you say but I like reading your posts.

In short, I believe God is never guilty of futility and I’m in no position to question His laws, although, the interpretation of a verse or translation of a hadith can be wrong but what is clearly stated in Quran is the ultimate truth, and when it says men have a degree over women it means in outwardness and physical qualities, it doesn’t mean men are better than women, in fact, women have an advantage when it comes to spiritual matters.

Now this can be proven by basic biology and about equality of rights in this world, even Germaine Greer suggests that the sexual liberation and gender revolution has harmed women more than men.

I believe, we should ask for opportunity and respect instead of equality.

ciao