Unlawful to marry a mushrik

[phatima]

Quran 2:[221]
Surah Al-Baqarah
English Translation of the Meaning of Al-Qur’an
By Muhammad Farooq-i-Azam Malik

“Do not marry mushrik women until they become believers; a believing slave woman is better than a free mushrik woman even though she may be more attractive to you. Likewise, do not marry mushrik men until they become believers: a believing slave is better than a free mushrik even though he may be more pleasing to you. These mushrikin invite you to the hellfire while Allah invites you towards paradise and forgiveness by His grace. He makes His revelations clear to mankind so that they may take heed.”

VOlume VII: Hadith 209
Sahih Al-Bukhari
The Translations of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari
By Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan

“Narrated Nafi: Whenever Ibn Umar was asked about marrying a Christian lady or a Jewess, he would say: ‘Allah has made it unlawful for the believers to marry ladies who ascribe partners in worship to Allah, and I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, then that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah’s slaves.’”

Does this completely forbid Muslim men to marry non-Muslim women?

I always thought it was only Muslim women who were not allowed to marry non-Muslims.

[Captain1]

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Muslim men are allowed to marry women of (Divine/aasmaani) book followers i.e. Christians, Jews ..... not just any "non-Muslim" women.

[Sara516]

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Ok…

Women are supposed to be the primary caretakers of children, at least thats whats prescribed for them in Islam.

Men are supposed to marry pious Christian or Jewish women, not agnostic/atheist/Hindus etc.

Now if a pious Muslim man married a pious christian/jewish woman wouldn’t there be a grater chance that his kids turn out not Muslim? The wife is mostly responsible for their religious upbringing.. wudn’t a pious non-Muslim woman teach her kids her own religion or try to convince them that her religion is better?

In these situations, many parents teach their kids abt both religions and then let them decide when they’re older.. i wudn’t think tha’ts even allowed, so i don’t believe that men r allowed to marry nonMuslim women>

[Bashful_khan]

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(1) Narrated Nafi': Whenever Ibn 'Umar was asked about marrying a christian lady or a Jewess, he would say: "Allah has made it unlawful for the believers to marry ladies who ascribe partners in worship to Allah, and I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah's slaves." (Book #63, Hadith #209)bukhari

[Kaleem]

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@Sara516

Ok…

Women are supposed to be the primary caretakers of children, at least thats whats prescribed for them in Islam.

Men are supposed to marry pious Christian or Jewish women, not agnostic/atheist/Hindus etc.

Now if a pious Muslim man married a pious christian/jewish woman wouldn’t there be a grater chance that his kids turn out not Muslim? The wife is mostly responsible for their religious upbringing.. wudn’t a pious non-Muslim woman teach her kids her own religion or try to convince them that her religion is better?

In these situations, many parents teach their kids abt both religions and then let them decide when they’re older.. i wudn’t think tha’ts even allowed, so i don’t believe that men r allowed to marry nonMuslim women>

I say we should be allowed to marry one pious muslimah, one pious christian, one pious jewish and finally as an added bonus one extra from the above.

[Prince_of_Persia]

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Muslim men are allowed to marry chaste women from amongst the People of the Scripture (Jews or Christians), probably because their own religions can act as a stepping stone towards Islam, but the children must be brought up as Muslims regardless of whether the woman choses to embrace Islam or not.

Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men probably because men have a dominant nature and women a passive nature and can be persuaded easier than a male. A Muslim woman who marries a Jewish or Christian man is commiting fornication because her marriage is null and void and if anyone thinks this is allowed then he or she has become an apostate from Islam.

Mushriks (Polythiests such as the Hindus) who do not believe in any of the mentioned Scriptures are not allowed to Muslim men or to Muslim women, anyone who marries them his marriage is not valid and he is a fornicator and if he justifies this and says it is allowed then he has become a Disbeliever.

It is true that even Christians are polythiests in a way because they believe in the trinity but they are a seperate category, I think both Jews and Christians are polythiests of a sort becuase they reject God's True Word (Koran) yet they hold sacred the man wrote modified parts of their own scripture.

[Prince_of_Persia]

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@Bashful khan

(1) Narrated Nafi’: Whenever Ibn 'Umar was asked about marrying a christian lady or a Jewess, he would say: “Allah has made it unlawful for the believers to marry ladies who ascribe partners in worship to Allah, and I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah’s slaves.” (Book #63, Hadith #209)bukhari

Some Christians don’t believe that and say Jesus :as: is only a Prophet and a Messiah such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses but I’m a bit uncomfortable with their saying he is the “master” creator because he is not, he is the created.

[Ma_Mooli]

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I dont understand. If for example, christians are in principle, comitting shirk (i.e. Son of God etc), how does it differentiate them from hindus/sikhs etc.?

[phatima]

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^Yea that's what I'm wondering.

[Captain1]

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@Ma Mooli

I dont understand. If for example, christians are in principle, comitting shirk (i.e. Son of God etc), how does it differentiate them from hindus/sikhs etc.?

Why just look at Christians committing shirk, what about Muslims committing shirk?

[phatima]

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Can someone please tell me what EXACTLY mushrik means? Does it mean "non-muslims" or "one who does not believe in God"?

[Ma_Mooli]

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Mushrik in essence means one who associates a partner with God, i.e. believe in more than one God.

Captain: That is the point. Muslims in thier beliefs are pretty clear on the principle of tawhid, i.e. ONE God with no partners. That is the basic premise of Islam. Whereas, if the main dogma of christians is based on shirk, then how is it possible to differentiate the believers from amongst them when essentially, they are all of the same beliefs?

[Captain1]

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Ma Mooli: I hear that all Christians do not believe in Trinity, "Jesus is son of God" etc., similarly not all Muslims are "clean"... they do shirk but not like associating powers with statues (as in Hindus) or believe someone as being son/sibling of God, but shirk in other ways. All in all, when you DO marry or consider someone for marriage you should check his/her beliefs IF you want to keep your and your children's faith purely Islamic.

[Ma_Mooli]

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Captain: Can you list the christian sects that do not believe in the Trinity? Im not sure ive heard of any. Is Jehovah Witness one?

[Captain1]

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Ma Mooli, I don't remember the names but I've heard it many a times that not all Christian sects believe what we know they do (Trinity, Son of God etc.)

[Seminole]

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So you want to take the exclusionary practices already dictated by the Quran and expand them now to include Jews and Christians?

[Captain1]

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Semi: who u talkin to?

[Seminole]

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Whoever is advocating expanding the exclusionary rules of who Muslims are allowed to marry beyond what is in the Quran.

[Captain1]

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^ who has done it so far in this thread? can you elaborate further?

[phatima]

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Seminole If you're referring to me, well my first post was a question. The thread was titled this because I typed up this Quranic Verse from the translation in which the chapter was titled "...unlawful to marry a mushrik".

Also, the Hadith I posted (the second quote) seems to be the personal opinion of Hazrat Umer, and therefore it is not an "exclusionary rule". However, the Quranic Verse I posted in the first quote is very clear (bolded phrases) in explaining that one should not marry mushrik men/women until he/she has become a believer. There also could be an error of translation in which case it wouldn't be a given law.