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^ and I have these healthy arguments - mostly with myself - all the time here!

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We got some heated communication from Hattori-san's village panchayat. The village elder who too has Japanese ancestry was riled that when stocks are down the performance of the undervalued stocks is not updated. He suggested - no demanded - that we compare the stocks performance with the S&p500.

We will certainly be happy to oblige.

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Our office is considering adding United Technologies to the list. We are waiting for a further 5% decrease in stock price from the current 72.5 level.

As a reminder do your own homework.

Sri Market knows best.

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After further analysis we have decided to wait for a steeper fall - maybe 15% to around 60$/ share. Stay tuned. Input welcome.

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^ UTX was up significantly in yesterday's market rally. No worries, if it does not reach the level of 60$/share, just means missed opportunity to own it. Someone (was it Buffett) sais - In baseball, 3 strikes you are out. In investing, you can keep taking strikes and wait for that fat pitch. (In other words, you can tuk tuk like the on eand only Misbah-ul-Haq). And when you are extremely comfortable a company's share price affords a significant safety factor (less down side, significant upside), make your move.

Of course individual stock investing is mostly a loser's game. So all of this information is academic - always understand what you are doing. And yes, Mr. Market knows best.

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Per the demands of Hattir sans panchayat chief I waited for a few down days. Here is update. The current price andgains are next to price at time of recommendation. Average price appreciation 2.4%. Yield at purchase about 4.3%

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Price of s&p500 on may 24 1321
Current price 1338
gain 1.3%
yield on may 24 2%

So this list beats market by 1.1% with 2.3% higher dividend yield

Of course this is meaningless. Need outperformance over long period.

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Up 5.9% on average with div yield 4.3%l

S&p500 1375 - up 54 from 1321 or up 4% in little over 2 months with 2% yield.

So 1.9% more gain over mot and 2.3% greater yield. So far so good.
Mr. Market knows best.

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Got a special request from panchayat chief of Japanese descent. Since market rose violently today, hexwanted an update. Who are we to refuse requests from distant lands? So here we go.

Up 9.08% on average

Market 1391 or up 70 or 5.3%.

So stocks gains beat market by 3.8% in addition to 2.3% greater dividend.

Our staff is always respectful of Mr. Market.

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Up 11.3% overall with div yld 4.3%

S&p500 1413 or up 92 or 7%. Mit yld may 28 2%
so 4% lead over mot in z3 months with 2.3% higher div.

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[quote="Southie, post:2, topic:260680"]

Just realized had not provided price of each stockbwhen first mentioned

AMAT 10.38 yield 3.52& 11.69 up 12%
Siemens 83.4 yield 4.7% 94.3 up 13%
TEVA 38.5. 3.1% 39.58 up 2.6%
NOVARTIS 51.5 4.84% 59.0 up 15%
ABB 15.9. 4.4% 17.32 up 9%

These are not recommendations to buy. Just what I consider undervalued stocks.

Never take anyones word - do ur own homework./QUOTE

Up 10.3% yld 4.3%

Mkt 1407 up 86 or up 6.5% yld 2%

Mkt 1407

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Intel down about 8% in last 2 business days. As Seyhrish had said few months ago in another thread, it is all about expectstions. Intel guided revenue for next Q lower than previous low end of revenue range. Reason - orders from emerging mkt also not strong. Competition from tablets. Server orders in line. ( my recollection of today WSJ piece).

Analysts recently were bullish Dur yo high yield. ( not the greatest of reasons just in and of itself). Now yield getting juicier at ~ 3.8% at price of 23.5 $ per share.

As discussed elsewhere Intel Applied Materials et al are classic cyclical stocks. When it rains it pours. Looks like it stopped raining. Value investors may see opportunity at 19$ or lower.

AGAIN THIS IS NOT A TIP. JUST A LIVE EXPERIMENT TO TEST MY HYPOTHESIS ON VARIOUS POTENTIALLY UNDERVALUED STOCKS.

DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK.

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Up 14.2% on average with div yield of 4.3%

1434 or up 8.6% from 1321 level when these stocks mentioned.

So after nearly 4 months these stock beat market by 5.6% with div yield greater by 2.3%.

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AMAT 10.38 yield 3.52. 11.18 Up 7%
Siemens 83.4 yield 4.7% 109.78 up 33%
TEVA 38.5. 3.1% 38.56 up 0%
NOVARTIS 51.5 4.84% 63.96 up 26%
ABB 15.9. 4.4% yld. 20.72 up 30%

These are not recommendations to buy. Just what I consider undervalued stocks.

Never take anyones word - do ur own homework.

Up 19.2% on average with div yield of 4.3%

1447 or up 9.6% from 1321 level when these stocks mentioned.

So after 7 months these stock beat market by 9.6% with div yield greater by 2.3%.

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I sold my ABB position at 21.4 a 33% in 7.5 months plus abt 4% div I think. Just thought I would let you know.

Reason for my sale - ABB hasxbeen very volatile with a low in last 12 yrs being $2 I think. Figured I will take the profit ( bird in hand. Eorth two in the bush as Trichur apparel used to say).

Not recommending what you should do. Just felt an obligation to inform since you were interested I. ABB based on this thread.

How are your stocks doing?

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AMAT 10.38 yield 3.52. 12.86 Up 23.5%
Siemens 83.4 yield 4.7% 109.78 up 33%
TEVA 38.56. 3.1% 37.4 down 3.0%
NOVARTIS 51.5 4.84% 68.2 up 31% ABB 15.9. 4.4% yld. 21.4 up 34%

Up 24% on average with div yield of 4.3%

1502 or up 14% from 1321 level when these stocks mentioned.

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So in 8 months since thread started the undervalued portfolio. beat the market by 10%. With 2.3% greater yield.

TEVA has significantly underperformed. I closed position in ABB. So price frozen at closing price of 21.4. Now price is at 21.63.

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AMAT 10.38 yield 3.52. 13.66 Up 31.6
Siemens 83.4 yield 4.7% 104.8 up 25.3%
TEVA 38.56. 3.1% 38.94 down 3.0%
NOVARTIS 51.5 4.84% 68.5 up 31%
ABB 15.9. 4.4% yld. 21.4 up 34.6%

Up 25.1% on average with div yield of 4.1%

1519 or up 15% from 1321 level when these stocks mentioned. Div yld 2%

In 8.5 months our portfolio beats market by 10.1% with 2.1% greater yield.

SI gave up some ground. TEVA coming back.

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AMAT 10.38 yield 3.52. 12.96 Up 24.9%
Siemens 83.4 yield 4.7% 109.5 up 31.3%
TEVA 38.56 3.1% 40 up 3.9%
NOVARTIS 51.5 4.84% 70.3 up 36.5%
ABB 15.9. 4.4% yld. 21.4 up 34.6%

Up 26.2% on average with div yield of 4.1%

1548or up 17.2% from 1321 level when these stocks mentioned. Div yld 2%

In 9.5 months our portfolio beats market by 9% with 2.1% greater yield.

In last 4 weeks market rose up 2%.

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Too lazy to type indiv price.

In 10.5 months, portfolio leads mkt by 8.9%. With 2.1% greater yield.