Unbelievable? Well believe it!

http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/WillSmith.jpg

I don’t know if this is true or not…

Think it’s true or this is some sort of BS?

Provide the link of this picture. I have also heard about Will converting to Islam. Not sure if this is true.

Take Your Best Shot At Me

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Originally posted by Pakistani Tiger:
Provide the **link of this picture. I have also heard about Will converting to Islam. Not sure if this is true.

Take Your Best Shot At Me**
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I got this pic in my email...

No link, sorry, BUT I am gonna be researching more on this topic soon enough.

khuda hafiz

NOT TRUE.

Its a hoax. He just admires 'n respects the religion.


Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.

It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.

“Muslim leaders across America are saluting Will Smith for embracing their religion after completing the Muhammad Ali biopic. Smith was introduced to the religion while learning about the legendary boxer’s life - Islam is Ali’s religion of choice. Friends close to Smith claim the megastar is now embracing the religion in his own life and is eager to learn more about it. Director of the American Muslim Association of North America, Sofian Zakkout says, “Muhammad Ali is one of the best examples of Muslims in this country. He’s been a wonderful spokesperson for the religion and if Will Smith can continue Muhammad Ali’s work that would be wonderful.” He continues, “Islam is a peaceful religion and if good people such as Muhammad and Will can carry that message then it would be wonderful. It would be a positive message for peaceful Muslims all over the world.” Smith appeared at the America: A Tribute To Heroes telethon in September alongside Ali, defending Islam in the wake of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.”

Source: http://us.imdb.com/WN?20011109#9
Scroll all the way down and you’ll see this.

khuda hafiz

"Its a hoax. He just admires 'n respects the religion."

Exactly...Will Smith did not convert to Islam. Forget what anyone else says...you know on Oscar night, Barbara Walters has that special right before the Oscars where she interviews some of the nominees? Well, he was one of the people she interviewed and this was one of the questions she asked. He himself said that he ONLY admires and respects the religion and had a chance to learn a lot about it during the movie. I dunno if anyone else watched that interview but I did. All these e-mails and sites saying he converted are hoaxes. Because like I said, forget what OTHER people say...Will Smith himself denied it.

Ukhalil!
Once again you have proved that you are very ignorant and very uninformed! This rumor was going around right around Will's movie ALI was being released!

Go check Shor Sharaba! CAIR contacted Will and this was proved wrong! Like you other crapy posts like the one where the American Journalist died this is also untrue!

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Originally posted by AliBeta:
**Ukhalil!
Once again you have proved that you are very ignorant and very uninformed! This rumor was going around right around Will's movie ALI was being released!

Go check Shor Sharaba! CAIR contacted Will and this was proved wrong! Like you other crapy posts like the one where the American Journalist died this is also untrue!

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Please man, think before you say something!
Where have I said he has converted to islam? I have said this:

" don't know if this is true or not...

Think it's true or this is some sort of BS?"

Does that ring the bell in your damn head?

*FOR THE SAKE OF GOD, I DONT WANNA HEAR YOUR OPINION ON MY POSTS CAUSE YOU'RE JUST A TOTALLY IGNORANT PERSON SINCE I HAVE RECEIVED MANY MESSAGES INDICATING THAT YOU'RE NOTHING BUT AN IGNORANT. *

SUPPORTING AN KUFFAR STATE WHICH HAS SAID ITSELF THAT ITS WORTH KILLING MUSLIMS! GOD, YOU MAKE ME SICK! SO I DONT WANNA HEAR YOUR OPINIONS! PLEASE!

Also, I am not the one going around telling people that music is not forbidden in islam.. LOL

khuda hafiz

[This message has been edited by ukhalil11 (edited April 27, 2002).]

this has been posted before... and it is not real...

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Originally posted by AliBeta:
**Ukhalil!
Once again you have proved that you are very ignorant and very uninformed! This rumor was going around right around Will's movie ALI was being released!

Go check Shor Sharaba! CAIR contacted Will and this was proved wrong! Like you other crapy posts like the one where the American Journalist died this is also untrue!

**
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Ali, again you disappoint all of us by exploiting this situation just so that you can label someone "ignorant," when you didn't even read all of what ukk has said in his post. Shame shame.


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: "DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH", THEY SAY "WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS" VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur'an-2:11-12]

this picture has been posted here before, and conclusion was this that this is not true.

i am not sure

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/confused.gif


What happens when we’re dead? The irony is that all our questions will be answered after we die. We spend our whole life trying to figure out the truth and the only way we’ll find out what it is, is to get hit by a bus. And the only comfort that religion offers is that God is driving that bus.

All racists who are prepared to die for their contry, please do that now.

Nope..it aint true.

I am starting to think the same, if he was converted, hollywood would've made a big deal out of it... oh well, thx for your opinion guys!

And alibeta, please do not run your mouth. By posting your message, you've just embarrased yourself and have made yourself look bad (Wouldn't complain if it only was your first time).

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Originally posted by Serial Guppy:
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Ali, again you disappoint all of us by exploiting this situation just so that you can label someone "ignorant," when you didn't even read all of what ukk has said in his post. Shame shame.

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He is lost, and I still cant believe the fact that he actually said music isn't forbidden in islam!

khuda hafiz

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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
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He is lost, and I still cant believe the fact that he actually said music isn't forbidden in islam!

khuda hafiz**
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ukhalil11 - I have a question for u, but then its not related to the thread. Anyways, can u please tell me if there is even a single verse in Quran that says music is haram or forbidden in Islam? I am not asking about Hadiths, but is there something mentioned in Quran about it? If there is then do let me know. This question goes to all guppy mullaz out there. Thanks!

In my opinion, I do not think there is a verse in quran about music. However, I may be wrong.

BUT everything in the quran, is said from allah through prophet Mohammed(PBUH). Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) has said that music is Al-haram!

Use Yusuf Islam’s example. He use to make songs and use to make a lot of money but as soon as he converted to islam and found out music is forbidden, he stopped making music. Or else he would still make music and make money if music was allowed in Islam.

This a very common rule of islam that do not listen to music. I mean even a little kid would know that but unfortunetly, people like alibeta are not aware and they talk about humanity and islam.

“The hadith found in al-Hakim describes the singing voice coupled with music as imbecilic and sinful. Naturally, singing coupled with music is forbidden, since music is forbidden”

Source:http://www.answering-christianity.com/music_no.htm

Go the following sites for more info on music in lslam:
http://muslim-canada.org/sufi/sama.htm http://www.answering-christianity.com/music_no.htm http://www.mountainoflight.co.uk/profiles/yi_profile7.htm http://www.renaissance.com.pk/octq720.htm

That’s about it for now, if you want more sites i’ll be happy to post more.:slight_smile:

Alibeta go to the above sites and read the articles. Get that brain of yours fixed and get on the right track for the sake of god!

khuda hafiz

[This message has been edited by ukhalil11 (edited April 28, 2002).]

I dont care what you say! You are no Maulana or a Sheikh that you can give a Fatwa that Music is Haraam!

Show me a single verse in Quran which says Music is Haraam and I promise I wont call you an ignorant fool!

Ahadees are interpretations of the Sahaba of what the Prophet (PBUH) had to say. And that could be changed! You can go ahead and call me Kaafir and whatever the hell you want since I listen to Music and do not support OBL and suicide bombings! I really dont care. As my deen is living in peace and harmony and letting others live in peace!

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Originally posted by AliBeta:
**I dont care what you say! You are no Maulana or a Sheikh that you can give a Fatwa that Music is Haraam!

Show me a single verse in Quran which says Music is Haraam and I promise I wont call you an ignorant fool!

Ahadees are interpretations of the Sahaba of what the Prophet (PBUH) had to say. And that could be changed! You can go ahead and call me Kaafir and whatever the hell you want since I listen to Music and do not support OBL and suicide bombings! I really dont care. As my deen is living in peace and harmony and letting others live in peace!

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Oh my god!
You have said something you're not even aware of it! Your words are telling me that prophet mohammed(PBUH) said something is haram and ignoring that fine? TOBA TOBA!

Who do you think you are? GOD? A prophet sent by allah who can change islam anytime he wants?

Use Yusuf islams example, use the links i have provided to expand your damn knowledge about islam. Even a little kid has more knowledge than you in islam!

Where does it says music is not forbidden? What's your source? Don't tell me it's your knowledge...

And I have told you please do not post your opinion on my posts cause whatever you say is bullshit! I don't wanna listen to your opinions and there are a lot of people opposing you here but you think you're Mr. perfect!

Way to go on changing islam Mr. perfect.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE ISLAM, YOU GOTTA CHANGE YOURSELF

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Originally posted by AliBeta:
**I dont care what you say! You are no Maulana or a Sheikh that you can give a Fatwa that Music is Haraam!

Show me a single verse in Quran which says Music is Haraam and I promise I wont call you an ignorant fool!

Ahadees are interpretations of the Sahaba of what the Prophet (PBUH) had to say. And that could be changed! You can go ahead and call me Kaafir and whatever the hell you want since I listen to Music and do not support OBL and suicide bombings! I really dont care. As my deen is living in peace and harmony and letting others live in peace!

**
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Oh my god!
You have said something you're not even aware of it! Your words are telling me that prophet mohammed(PBUH) said something is haram and ignoring that fine? TOBA TOBA!

Who do you think you are? GOD? A prophet sent by allah who can change islam anytime he wants?

Use Yusuf islams example, use the links i have provided to expand your damn knowledge about islam. Even a little kid has more knowledge than you in islam!

Where does it says music is not forbidden? What's your source? Don't tell me it's your knowledge...

And I have told you please do not post your opinion on my posts cause whatever you say is bullshit! I don't wanna listen to your opinions and there are a lot of people opposing you here but you think you're Mr. perfect!

Way to go on changing islam Mr. perfect.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE ISLAM, YOU GOTTA CHANGE YOURSELF

ukhalil11 - thanks for the facts. but hadiths are just the interpretations of what Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, isnt it? And if you are the follower of Allah, then you know that He mentioned in the holy Quran to follow Him and His book only. I am not saying that hadiths are wrong. They "can" be correct. But I personally would follow Quran. If music was haraam and Muslims were not allowed to sing or hear music, then it must've been mentioned in the Quran. Dont you think?? Oh well, I am not trying to have an argument here. But I just want to have a fair talk on this issue coz I never thought it was haraam. Now after reading all the info from the links u provided, I am a lill doubtful. But if you see my point, DONT u think if hearing music was SUCH a big issue ... how could Allah just not mention it in Quran, and why do we read about it in Hadiths? So think about it. And before u say anything, I suggest u ask the same question to an Islamic scholar as well. If there are ppl around who care to share their thoughts on this matter, then they are most welcome to.

Alibeta and Ukhalil11 - Stop acting like kids and calling each other names! Its better if we all not make fun of each other and rather share knowledge with people. If you think someone said something wrong, then try to correct him/her. Hope you guys get my point. Grow up now!

Aatif