UN backs gay rights for first time ever

[javedmiandad]

Re: UN backs gay rights for first time ever

@reduzijuice

Of course if the Islamic State comes as a result of the democratic will of the people - whatever law parliament legislates would be enforced, I might not like some of those laws - so I’ll vote for someone who can change them.

Incest - Parent/offspring - in my opinion would theoretically be fine - as long as a judge can determine for certain that the childs upbringing was not in such a way that predisposes them to say yes to such a union. So I guess the only case where I would actually ever be okay with this happening would be if a parent lost their child - met them after the child was 18 and then the two of them consented to their relationship - because only in such a case would you be able to ensure that the power that the parent commands over the child until they turn 18 is not abused, because otherwise that would be pedophilia and I don’t think any sane person would support that - even in Europe - would love to see some links about the Europe story though.

As for bestiality. If there was a way in which the consent of the animal could be determined - and the animal was a free animal - then yes I wouldn’t have a problem with bestiality either. Until that happens though - condoning bestiality because the guy/girl thinks they save love/lust in the animals eyes is not sufficient.

The highlighted part is incorrect - I said -

hence the rest of your post - which is quite an informative one - is misdirected - because you misread what I said. Currently Pakistan is in limbo - not secular because we have some laws based on Shariah, and not and Islamic State because all laws that can be based on Shariah are not.

See above.

I’m not sure what evidence of justice of minorities you gave - I also don’t know what state today or in the past you consider an Islamic State because in the other thread you seem to imply that Mughal India was an Islamic State.

Are minorities in India safe? In the eyes of the state they’re equal citizens, practically in the eyes of society? no.

I’d love to discuss more in the Secular Pakistan thread in Pakistan Affairs, this thread has already been derailed - once because of the morality/legality of homosexuality - and now this.

Red

again you completely misunderstand what islamic state is about you cannot change the laws because you feel like it or some other people feel like it doesn’t work like that. Unless a situation has no evidence for it then ijtihad can be done to deduce new ruling for that matter.

Pakistan is secular you did not even refute of any of the examples i highlighted, this is where you had change to shred my accusation that pakistan is secular you did not meet the challenge on this at all.

You accept incest as ok!!! when mother or father have sexual relationship with their children aoozibillah, how on earth you accept such a disgusting relationship no wonder you perfectly fine with homosexuality you also fine with incest, and people having relationship with the animals.

i don’t even take you seriously because you just dug your own grave with the ridiculous comments on incest etc topic has not been derailed at all it only exposed the disgusting ideas secularism and i am happy it came out in the open so peole can see for themselves what secularism offers!