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Mr. Rally:
Do you need the authentication of my post. Why don't you go ahead and call SHO Peshawar University and ask him about it.
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Why should I call him?
YOU posted it WITHOUT reference, YOU prove it.
ah, i can see the end of this thread right now... a bit more name-calling, personal insults.....
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*Originally posted by Degas: *
Yes. and how did India came in all this?
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You brough it up...
Now be a good little jihadi and declare a jihad against JeM and wrap a suicide belt and go bow up the mullah's that cater to this kind of thought against ahmadis. Chop chop!!!!
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Dear Rally, Why don't we wait for Fateh Ahmad to appear in this thread and then provide a link for this. As far as i am concerned, i believed it immediately because the declaration that they are "duty bound to kill" Ahmadis, sounds quite similar to what i have heard from other Muslims who feel quite strongly about Ahmadis/Qadiyanis. Incidentally, before i came on Gupshup, i wasn't even aware who Ahmadis were, (i thought they were a group of people whose last name was Ahmadi). Subsequent to reading some of the posts here, i really am shocked at some of the comments directed towards them... Anyways, let's just wait for Fateh Ahmad to enter this thread and offer his response.
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Nadia,
There are lots that you do not know about!
Folks,
Fatwas like these have popped up on previous occasions against other sects. But people directly named have usually claimed to be innocent or have no knowledge. (wink wink nudge nudge).
The aim is to intimidate and co-erce the targeted group into converting.
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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
You brough it up...
Now be a good little jihadi and declare a jihad against JeM and wrap a suicide belt and go bow up the mullah's that cater to this kind of thought against ahmadis. Chop chop!!!!
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I would rather put a suicide belt around u and take u to ur Shiv Sena pundits and blow up..
Interestingly these hindu extremists are able to motivate a large number of hindu mobs to attack and destroy mosque or kill in Gujrat for days while those muslim extrmists can never do that a sthey dont have following in general masses!
fatehahmad
Its always recommended here to provide link whenever we post soemething here.. we get alot of hate mails everyday and without proper reference it could always result in mud slinging..
Really..why is that people across the world are taking out your ilk?
Allow me to take out the Shiv sena and RSS, they are dogs. Now are the idiots who declare such edicts against ahmadis in pakistan, the same species or no?
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Really..why is that people across the world are taking out your ilk?
Allow me to take out the Shiv sena and RSS, they are dogs. Now are the idiots who declare such edicts against ahmadis in pakistan, the same species or no?
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Sure they are of teh same breed as Siv sena and RSS!
Dunno what u mean by around the world and whom are u addressing..
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**There are lots that you do not know about! *
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True, i agree. Especially the part about me being religiously oppressed and subjugated, right, thanks to Islam.
I am just wondering that this organisation called jaish e muhammad which i belive was born after the hijacking of indian aircraft to kabul. is it such a formidable force in pakistan in short span of time? or its just a bogey man ?
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sister nadia, no need to be shocked by the stuff on gupshop, this will shock you in a new light:
http://www.ahmedi.org/EngArticle_3.htm
BTW thanks for those hanza yousif links, I have started communications with him via email.
Mr. Rally:
How original! Now you presented a website maintained by Lahori Ahmadis. They are so much opposed to the Nizam-e-Khilafat in jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya that they can concoct any story to spread false rumors about the Khilafat in Ahmadiyya Jamaat.
And BTW you also consider Lahori Ahmadis to be out of the fold of Islam and now you are presenting arguments put forward by them in your favor. How convenient!
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*Originally posted by fatehahmad: *
Mr. Rally:
How original! Now you presented a website maintained by Lahori Ahmadis. They are so much opposed to the Nizam-e-Khilafat in jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya that they can concoct any story to spread false rumors about the Khilafat in Ahmadiyya Jamaat.
And BTW you also consider Lahori Ahmadis to be out of the fold of Islam and now you are presenting arguments put forward by them in your favor. How convenient!
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Oh that got your attention. Now answer what you posted to start this thread.
Mr. Rally:
I already told you to call the SHO of peshawar university to confirm the story. And Do you realy think that gutless Newspapers of Peshawar would print anything in favor of Ahmadis. These kind of threats are distributed to many different Ahmadi families in Peshawar area. I just posted a translation of one of these threats given to one Ahmadi i.e. Saleem Ahmad. The matter was reported to SHO of Peshawar university and I believe that he can confirm that something of that sort did happen.
If you are a Taalib-e-Haq then you do have to make some sacrifices.
And Don't become angry as we are all here to discuss different things.
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*Originally posted by fatehahmad: *
Mr. Rally:
And Don't become angry as we are all here to discuss different things.
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Well this is how I look at it, you posted that to gain some sort of sympthy on here, you quiz everything I post especially links, you always seem to have something to refute, and all i've done is copy your attitude and quizzed you about it, and I still belive that is not a true threat.
So all you've done is proved your lying heritage which the whole ahmadiat is built on.
Mr. Rally:
If lies are being thrown at Jamaat Ahmadiyya, Why shouldn't I refute those lies. I think you do have a serious problem with any Ahmadi that refute those lies. I considered to be my duty to do that.
And I don't upset with anything any more. I have seen a lot of people like you that are full of deceit and lies. It doesn't matter any more.
And I don't want any sympathy from anybody. Telling a truth shouldn't be considered a way of getting sympathy.
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*Originally posted by fatehahmad: *
Mr. Rally:
If lies are being thrown at Jamaat Ahmadiyya, Why shouldn't I refute those lies. I think you do have a serious problem with any Ahmadi that refute those lies. I considered to be my duty to do that.
And I don't upset with anything any more. I have seen a lot of people like you that are full of deceit and lies. It doesn't matter any more.
And I don't want any sympathy from anybody. Telling a truth shouldn't be considered a way of getting sympathy.
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So why have you still failed to provide any proof on this spoof threat you posted, and don't give the BS to contact some hoax in peshawar, so in future i can post anything without any reference to it?
Mr. Rally:
I have already told you that its not a news item. It was a english translation of a letter in Urdu being distributed by Jaishe-e-Muhammad and some other religous organizations. Matter was forward to the SHO Peshawar University. No newspaper ever published anything about it and only SHO Peshawar University can confirm this incident.
These kind of threats are not a new thing in Pakistan against Ahmadis but are rarely reported as nobody even police wants to take a side with Ahmadis.
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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *
True, i agree. Especially the part about me being religiously oppressed and subjugated, right, thanks to Islam.
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Dear Nadia,
You are not religiously oppressed and subjugated; the women living under laws of Sharia are! You do not live under sharia and for that, rightfully, the thanks goes to the Democratic WEST with its anti-Islamic teachings & laws.
Mr. Hafeez123:
You have started the same discussion in three different threads. I think you should concentrate on any of those.
When you say the 'Law of Sharia', do you mean the Laws of Sharia as percieved by Sunnis or Shias or Barelvis or Deo-Bandis or Wahabis. Or Do you also keep in mind the 'Law of Sharia' as presented by Holy Quran? What 'Law of Sharia' out of these you are talking about?